Changing Max HR

29-01.-2003, 10:33 AM	#1
GearGrinder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Queensland Posts: 134	Changing Max HR I am just wondering what is going on whith my HR when i first got the hr i got the max up to 206 as i got fitter the max seemed to be 195 it then when up to 202 now my max is 196 in a race but in training its hard to get up to 190. whats going on? My resting HR has also gone from 40 to 33 also so i guess there is till the same range of beats but why does the max change?

30-01.-2003, 08:38 AM	#2
GearGrinder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Queensland Posts: 134	?

30-01.-2003, 09:05 AM	#3
steve Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Below Australia -20 years Posts: 1,993	33 is a bloody low resting HR, maybe as your heart gets stronger it can beat as fast? __________________ Steve CyclingForums.com

30-01.-2003, 10:10 AM	#4
ric_stern/RST Community Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 3,831	Maximum HR decreases with training, primarily due to an increase in plasma volume, which occurs quite rapidly with training. This effect is also reversed rapidly, e.g., when you are ill and have a couple of weeks of from training. Ric __________________ http://www.cyclecoach.com

30-01.-2003, 03:39 PM	#5
GearGrinder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Queensland Posts: 134	thats interesting to hear , so the lower the resting hr the lower the max becomes. whats the lowest resting hr that is posible?. Is this a indication of performance or not? eg would the pro with the lowest resting hr be better than the other? thanks.

30-01.-2003, 07:29 PM

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thats interesting to hear , so the lower the resting hr the lower the max becomes. whats the lowest resting hr that is posible?. Is this a indication of performance or not? eg would the pro with the lowest resting hr be better than the other? thanks.

HR in any shape or form is not indicative of performance. in fact all it really tells you is what your heart is doing! it's useful as a vague proxy for intensity, but changes due to a variety of internal and external factors, e.g., at a constant (low) workload HR can increase or decrease due to various stimulii, such as caffiene, temperature, if you've just eaten, stress, someone attractive, etc.

Resting HR, which does decrease as well through training, doesn't have any bearing on performance. When the TdF riders go through their pre-TdF check up some of them have RHR in the 60's.

Resting HR doesn't lower max HR, they both lower but necessarily together, and RHR might continue to lower even when max HR doesn't. Furthermore, even when they've stopped lowering you continue to get fitter.

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31-01.-2003, 07:35 AM	#7
ant evans Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales Posts: 95	http://www.hhp.ufl.edu/keepingfit/ARTICLE/indurain.HTM This link is the most authoratative I could find for the much-repeated fact that Indurain had a resting heart rate of 28. It usefully predicts that he will win the 1993 Tour. __________________ drivers = smokers

31-01.-2003, 08:44 AM	#8
maarten Community Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lierde Flanders Posts: 296	Ricsterns resume is good Rest heart rate can not be used to compare between individuals. For one individual it can be usefull(to look for progress in fitness, overtraining signs, signs of illness) if you bear in mind that there are lots of other factors that have their influence. About the 60's measurements for top cyclist. First 60 is high and the number of top cyclist with 60 will be low(if not non existing). The circumstances are important. I remember Andrei Tchmil stating when asked why his rest heart rate at the check was so high(the year he had (one off) the highest off all), he stated I walked up to the 3d floor. The numbers of this TDF check up are a nice to know but aren't that exact, its a general(modest) check up not top scientific results. For the person who asked about lowest I know a guy who had 22. There will be lower ones I believe, Low rates can become dangerous and aren't absolute mesureaments for preformance, just as max rates. __________________ A winner is a loser who didn't quit!

31-01.-2003, 07:32 PM

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For the person who asked about lowest I know a guy who had 22. There will be lower ones I believe, Low rates can become dangerous and aren't absolute mesureaments for preformance, just as max rates.

The one thing everyone will agree on is, your resting heart rate is simply a good indicator of how low your resting heart rate is.

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31-01.-2003, 07:36 PM	#10
ant evans Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales Posts: 95	... although if it's low enough, it is a good indicator that you're dead. __________________ drivers = smokers

31-01.-2003, 07:38 PM

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... although if it's low enough, it is a good indicator that you're dead.

mine was zero for 1.5 seconds, then it started to beat again

lucky huh?

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01-02.-2003, 04:05 PM	#12
Duckwah Community Team Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 780	not 100% on topic but if anyones interested... some of the lowest RHRs belong to olympic shooters who get their heart rates down to about 20 bpmwhile competing so that they have time to take shots between heart beats

01-02.-2003, 10:33 PM	#13
Leon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 152	Interesting, I must admit I was fasinated watching the last Winter Olympics, particularly the duathlon event that combines cross country skiing and target shooting. How those athletes manage to aim and hit their targets whilst their hearts are racing away at 200 bpm is beyond comprehension. Leon

01-02.-2003, 11:21 PM	#14
ant evans Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales Posts: 95	Easy, they just shoot between heartbeats. Or maybe they miss. __________________ drivers = smokers

02-02.-2003, 05:14 AM	#15
Duckwah Community Team Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 780	you can't shoot between heartbeats in a duathalon, you've got to be down around 50-60 bpm to even try that

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