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Who is on the list of BANNED, GUILTY FIRED etc. cyclists due to doping

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Old 20-07.-2008, 12:28 PM   #1
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Question Who is on the list of BANNED, GUILTY FIRED etc. cyclists due to doping

Who is on this list?

This came to mind in a split second

Floyd Landis
Marco Pantani
David Millar
Ivan Basso
Jan Ulrich
Ricco what's his name...
Vino
Michael Rasmussen
"Tricky" Beltran

WHO ELSE???
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Old 20-07.-2008, 07:38 PM   #2
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Do you get taken off the list when you're dead ?
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Old 21-07.-2008, 01:28 AM   #3
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Taken off like Pantani... OK you're right. I will say to my kids it is ok to be a doper as long as you die from a cocaine O.D. Sorry Elvis I am starch on this one, no insult to your question, just to Marco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Pantani

A roll model he was not.

Oh you can toss Tyler Hamilton on that list as well... Except he's not dead.
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here are some more...

Alex Zulle
Bjarne Riis

...plus many of the personalities currently in Rock Racing... including Hamilton.
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Old 21-07.-2008, 07:36 AM   #5
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Thanks Cyclo... I appreciate the help! What was the name of the guy who's girlfriend (I think it was) was found with doping materials in her car trunk??

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Thanks Cyclo... I appreciate the help! What was the name of the guy who's girlfriend (I think it was) was found with doping materials in her car trunk??

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Can't remember the name of the guy... if I recall right he was from the former Soviet Union. However I just remembered another guy who confessed to doping and this is the former King of the Mountains Richard Virenque who was a member of the infamous Festina team, a team which was also accused of organizing the use of performance enhancing drugs by all its members.
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Old 21-07.-2008, 08:49 AM   #7
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LOL Cyclo... DUH ON ME! I have the Lotto Domo Jersey (STILL) from the Virenque (Spell check me) years... Dunno how I forgot him... I am sure there are a ton of other names... Lemme google "Cycling Dopers" etc...
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Third time I am trying this... These come from this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operac...rto_doping_case

Francisco Mancebo

Constantino Zaballa
Alejandro Valverde

Jose Ignacio Gutierrez
Jose Enrique Gutierrez
Santiago Botero

Carlos Zarate
Koldo Gil


Oscar Sevilla

Jorge Jaksche

Carlos Garcia Quesada

Michele Bartoli
Angel Casero
Roberto Heras
Santiago Perez
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_...ance/134842.stm


Along with Virenque his Festina teammates were Alex Zulle, Pascal Herve, Laurent Dufaux, Christophe Moreau, Armin Meier, Didier Rous and Neil Stephens. They were all thrown out of 1998 TdF.

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Mark Walsham, Great Britain

Willi Tackaert, Belgium



2008

Barloworld

Moisés Dueñas Nevado



Frankie Andreu (He is the lisping guy on the Versus Network… WTF!... )

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/12/sports/othersports/12cycling.html?scp=7&sq=cyclist%20EPO&st=cse



I am all for a lifetime ban on cyclists Pro or otherwise giving the rest of us a bad name… I know that paying attention to this sport is probably more prominent in Europe than it will ever be here in the US, but someone should make a real stand… You want to ban Astana… Great (Stupid).. Then hand out lifetime bans to riders as well… Otherwise the world gets filled with guys who make Hall of Fames like drug addicts that struggle to come clean. i.e. Lawrence Taylor from the NFL. How many times was he given a second chance… There were so many stories about him on the news … even after retirement that it all blurred into one story. Now over time people are forgetting his actions because of other sports bad boys. These are the role models of our children? IS this all we have? The best we can do? NICE! I don’t even want to touch upon baseball… I have lost faith in the serious depth of it’s governing body. I used to say, “Barry Bonds!” That became, “Barry who?” which changed into, “Barry? Who cares!” It is that final label that the players want most, that means people have begun giving up the convictions and the issue is that much closer to slipping from mind… it isn’t forgiveness it becomes more like forget-ness and that is not a proper sentence for substance abuse. The worst thing is it becomes a terrible teaching tool to future generations of athletes.



In closing I want to say that it would be great if we could differentiate between drug addicts, cheaters and athletes.



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I don't know why cycling gets such a bad rap. Testing in football, baseball, and soccer is a complete joke. The doping problems in those sports are at least as bad as in cycling, but I guess there's more money to be made by those larger organizations when superstars break records, and those organization know that's what brings in the fans and sells merchandise. I used to have to bite my lip at work and just shake my head when the die hard, frothing at the mouth football and baseball types dissed cycling because - heaven forbid - they had dopers. I guess "denial" is not just a river in Egypt.
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Kashechkin
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Taken off like Pantani... OK you're right. I will say to my kids it is ok to be a doper as long as you die from a cocaine O.D. Sorry Elvis I am starch on this one, no insult to your question, just to Marco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Pantani

A roll model he was not.

Oh you can toss Tyler Hamilton on that list as well... Except he's not dead.
Marco Pantani is still inspiring to me to this day. He is one of the greatest climbers of all time, not withstanding drug use. I think we all know by now that all pro riders use some kind of drugs. It has been part of the sport since the beginning of Tour de France. Cycling is hard and "no one wins the tour on mineral water" .
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Sorry Armstrong only makes the list in the minds of those who want him to be guilty. No matter how much you may dislike him, he is still clean in the eyes of history (drug tested and settled) and that footprint now rests for all of time so it seems... I can't imagine his case being reopened unless some very serious proof comes forward... Not impossible, just doubtful.
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