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Re: The Triton's competition

 
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Old 27-06.-2008, 01:25 AM   #1
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ntappin wrote:
> If its Titanium I rather doubt he can get it for under 400, no matter
> how good friends he is with the welder, if its any less I wouldn't even
> trust it.



How are you calculating your cost for a Titanium frame? What
quantities are you assuming for price points? Where are your sourcing
your materials, and how much have you included for labor? Do you
assume manual or automated assembly?

...or did you pull that number out of your arse?


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Old 27-06.-2008, 01:46 AM   #2
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maestro8 wrote:
> How are you calculating your cost for a Titanium frame? What quantities
> are you assuming for price points? Where are your sourcing your
> materials, and how much have you included for labor? Do you assume
> manual or automated assembly?
>
> ...or did you pull that number out of your arse?




Well, the sponge frames were about $450, and made in a country with
cheaper labour, and relatively local access to materials, by a company
that has access to the materials in large quantities due to making bike
frames out of it. So that might be a possible minimum cost.

Also, given titanium is harder to weld and more expensive than steel,
you can maybe expect a price somewhere around the price of the original
hand-built KH frames as a minimum, which were something like $500 each.

Joe


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Old 27-06.-2008, 01:46 AM   #3
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maestro8 wrote:
> How are you calculating your cost for a Titanium frame? What quantities
> are you assuming for price points? Where are your sourcing your
> materials, and how much have you included for labor? Do you assume
> manual or automated assembly?
>
> ...or did you pull that number out of your arse?




Well, the sponge frames were about $450, and made in a country with
cheaper labour, and relatively local access to materials, by a company
that has access to the materials in large quantities due to making bike
frames out of it. So that might be a possible minimum cost.

Also, given titanium is harder to weld and more expensive than steel,
you can maybe expect a price somewhere around the price of the original
hand-built KH frames as a minimum, which were something like $500 each.

Joe


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Old 27-06.-2008, 01:46 AM   #4
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maestro8 wrote:
> How are you calculating your cost for a Titanium frame? What quantities
> are you assuming for price points? Where are your sourcing your
> materials, and how much have you included for labor? Do you assume
> manual or automated assembly?
>
> ...or did you pull that number out of your arse?




Well, the sponge frames were about $450, and made in a country with
cheaper labour, and relatively local access to materials, by a company
that has access to the materials in large quantities due to making bike
frames out of it. So that might be a possible minimum cost.

Also, given titanium is harder to weld and more expensive than steel,
you can maybe expect a price somewhere around the price of the original
hand-built KH frames as a minimum, which were something like $500 each.

Joe


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Old 27-06.-2008, 02:41 PM   #5
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maestro8 wrote:
> How are you calculating your cost for a Titanium frame? What quantities
> are you assuming for price points? Where are your sourcing your
> materials, and how much have you included for labor? Do you assume
> manual or automated assembly?
>
> ...or did you pull that number out of your arse?




I pulled it out my ass pretty much. But I based it on prices I have
seen. I tried to get a frame made by a couple companies who were
looking in the 800 dollar range, so I figured that Triton would be
around as low as you could get. Plus from what I hear it is a lot more
expensive to get things made in the US, so yeah its an ass number, but
there is a bit of info behind it. I guess I should have said this info
in the original reply though.


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