Is this hitting races too?

Bill C

http://tinyurl.com/5roqus

High fuel prices put brakes on indie band tours By JASON DEAREN,
Associated Press Writer
Sun Jun 22, 12:22 PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
tours.

For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour — but
skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.


I know that this has been an issue with Officials, and has been
looked at by USAC, but are less racers traveling?
The only good thing is that it finally seems to have people actually
thinking about their usage.
Bill C

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:39:31 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
<tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote:

>http://tinyurl.com/5roqus
>
>High fuel prices put brakes on indie band tours By JASON DEAREN,
>Associated Press Writer
>Sun Jun 22, 12:22 PM ET
>
>SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
>recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
>tours.
>
>For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
>and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour — but
>skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.
>
>
> I know that this has been an issue with Officials, and has been
>looked at by USAC, but are less racers traveling?

I think so.

till.marek@gmail.com

On Jun 22, 3:39*pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/5roqus
>
> High fuel prices put brakes on indie band tours By JASON DEAREN,
> Associated Press Writer
> Sun Jun 22, 12:22 PM ET
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
> recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
> tours.
>
> For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
> and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour — but
> skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.
>
> *I know that this has been an issue with Officials, and has been
> looked at by USAC, but are less racers traveling?
> *The only good thing is that it finally seems to have people actually
> thinking about their usage.
> *Bill C

it appears that way this year.

i know i'm being more choosy with the races I travel too. no more
driving 2.5 hours to a ind. park crit to race for 50 or 60 min.

the race has to be good enough to justify the fuel cost.

Bill C

On Jun 22, 8:25*pm, till.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 3:39*pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/5roqus
>
> > High fuel prices put brakes on indie band tours By JASON DEAREN,
> > Associated Press Writer
> > Sun Jun 22, 12:22 PM ET
>
> > SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
> > recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
> > tours.
>
> > For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
> > and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour — but
> > skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.
>
> > *I know that this has been an issue with Officials, and has been
> > looked at by USAC, but are less racers traveling?
> > *The only good thing is that it finally seems to have people actually
> > thinking about their usage.
> > *Bill C
>
> it appears that way this year.
>
> i know i'm being more choosy with the races I travel too. *no more
> driving 2.5 hours to a ind. park crit to race for 50 or 60 min.
>
> the race has to be good enough to justify the fuel cost.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That's kinda what I thought would be happening. It's been a crowded
calendar here in New England for years. It'll be interesting to see
just which races continue to do well. I'll be really interested to
hear how the stuff down in Pa. shakes out too. Doesn't seem to be the
time to be skimping on customer service and rider satisfaction.
Bill C

Howard Kveck

In article <fb26874d-d1f5-41e1-9765-5706af13ea48@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/5roqus

> SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
> recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
> tours.
>
> For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
> and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour ‹ but
> skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.

Think about being in a band that's playing small clubs that only charge $5 or $10
to get in. You might not make enough to pay for gas to the next gig, let alone eat.
This is going to make blagging floor space from your fans even more prevalent than it
already is. Bands better hope they do a lot of merch - CDs and shirts can help.

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

2bowlers@gmail.com

On Jun 22, 8:52*pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:

> *That's kinda what I thought would be happening. It's been a crowded
> calendar here in New England for years. It'll be interesting to see
> just which races continue to do well. I'll be really interested to
> hear how the stuff down in Pa. shakes out too. Doesn't seem to be the
> time to be skimping on customer service and rider satisfaction.

Seemed like a pretty good turnout for the Giro d'Jersey that just
finished up today. Quite a few cars from MD and the various New
England states. Nice race, quite fun to do a three day event for a
change and as a bonus my longest travel time was about 20 minutes.
Sweet!!

With guys running $2000++ wheelsets and $10,000 TT bikes I don't think
the master fattie fields will suffer all that much.

Mark

Donald Munro

2bowlers wrote:
> Seemed like a pretty good turnout for the Giro d'Jersey

I assume the GC jersey is pollution colored ?

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT), 2bowlers@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jun 22, 8:52*pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> *That's kinda what I thought would be happening. It's been a crowded
>> calendar here in New England for years. It'll be interesting to see
>> just which races continue to do well. I'll be really interested to
>> hear how the stuff down in Pa. shakes out too. Doesn't seem to be the
>> time to be skimping on customer service and rider satisfaction.
>
>Seemed like a pretty good turnout for the Giro d'Jersey that just
>finished up today. Quite a few cars from MD and the various New
>England states. Nice race, quite fun to do a three day event for a
>change and as a bonus my longest travel time was about 20 minutes.

Three stages for the travel means less impact of gas prices than for
a similar drive to a one-day race.

Bill C

On Jun 22, 9:05*pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article <fb26874d-d1f5-41e1-9765-5706af13e...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups..com>,
> *Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/5roqus
> > SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
> > recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
> > tours.
>
> > For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
> > and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour ‹ but
> > skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.
>
> * *Think about being in a band that's playing small clubs that only charge $5 or $10
> to get in. You might not make enough to pay for gas to the next gig, let alone eat.
> This is going to make blagging floor space from your fans even more prevalent than it
> already is. Bands better hope they do a lot of merch - CDs and shirts canhelp.
>
> --
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx,
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard
>
> * * * * * * * * * *The bloody pubs are bloody dull
> * * * * * * * * * *The bloody clubs are bloody full
> * * * * * * * * * *Of bloody girls and bloody guys
> * * * * * * * * * *With bloody murder in their eyes
>
> * * * * * * * * * * *remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Yeah it's brutal. my partner's kids are doing it now. One in Philly,
and one in NYC. Working at HomeCheapo and an independent coffehouse
respectively. Strangely enough HomeCheapo is actually being supportive
and allowing him a really flexible schedule to do his music. No need
to say the coffeehouse is supportive.
Bill C

SLAVE of THE STATE

On Jun 22, 12:39*pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/5roqus
>
> High fuel prices put brakes on indie band tours By JASON DEAREN,
> Associated Press Writer
> Sun Jun 22, 12:22 PM ET
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - Steven Garcia pulled into a Houston gas station
> recently to fill up the old Dodge van his punk band uses on summer
> tours.
>
> For months, the 23-year-old singer-guitarist had been budgeting money
> and booking show dates for Something Fierce's third tour — but
> skyrocketing gas prices have put the brakes on those plans.
>
> *I know that this has been an issue with Officials, and has been
> looked at by USAC, but are less racers traveling?
> *The only good thing is that it finally seems to have people actually
> thinking about their usage.

It depends upon how similar bike racing is to wearing Assos gear, or
maybe what fraction of old fat racers wear Assos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

2bowlers@gmail.com

On Jun 23, 5:09*am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 2bowlers wrote:
> > Seemed like a pretty good turnout for the Giro d'Jersey
>
> I assume the GC jersey is pollution colored ?

Worse - they went with pink and white.