Another scary crash video

caffetrieste

How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on
his bike, and finish the race?

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289

Maple Tree

"caffetrieste" <cycleto.com@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4a5852d5-a445-414a-9774-043c9e1d4088@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on
> his bike, and finish the race?
>
> http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289

Wow, he is lucky he is not dead, how far did he fall and what was at the
bottom ?

raamman@gmail.com

On Jun 18, 7:06*pm, caffetrieste <cycleto....@gmail.com> wrote:
> How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on
> his bike, and finish the race?
>
> http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289

I've seen a few csc cervelo riders do that the past year or two- I
think there's a problem with the carbon frames twisting at the head
tube under side load or something like that

Donald Munro

caffetrieste wrote:

> How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on his
> bike, and finish the race?
>
> http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289

A bit like Kessler's crash a while back. Hopefully the adrenaline released
by a crash like that does not result in a positive testosterone test.

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:49:03 -0700 (PDT), raamman@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jun 18, 7:06*pm, caffetrieste <cycleto....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on
>> his bike, and finish the race?
>>
>> http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289
>
>I've seen a few csc cervelo riders do that the past year or two- I
>think there's a problem with the carbon frames twisting at the head
>tube under side load or something like that

No way. It's rider error.

ilanpsi@gmail.com

On Jun 19, 10:33 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> caffetrieste wrote:
> > How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on his
> > bike, and finish the race?
>
> >http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289
>
> A bit like Kessler's crash a while back. Hopefully the adrenaline released
> by a crash like that does not result in a positive testosterone test.

Bruyneel's crash in the Tour de France. I think he fell about 30 feet
down the side of the road and there was a human chain to help him back
up.

-ilan

RicodJour

On Jun 19, 5:40 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:49:03 -0700 (PDT), raam...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Jun 18, 7:06 pm, caffetrieste <cycleto....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> How the HELL did Frank Schleck walk away from this one, get back on
> >> his bike, and finish the race?
>
> >>http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?op...=article&id=289
>
> >I've seen a few csc cervelo riders do that the past year or two- I
> >think there's a problem with the carbon frames twisting at the head
> >tube under side load or something like that
>
> No way. It's rider error.

Partly. There seemed to be a dark patch in the road - maybe oil? -
and that can happen to anybody. It's tough when natural instinct
(putting a foot down) wins out over keeping your ass from flying off
an embankment. He should have laid it down.

From my perspective that was almost a perfect crash. There was the
initial, Uh-oh! reaction as you saw him unclip and start to put his
foot down, then the OMFG! as he launched and plummeted, then the
Alright! I Love That Guy! as you see him get back on the bike. A
solid 9.6 on anyone's scale.

R

RicodJour

On Jun 19, 5:40 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
>
> No way. It's rider error.

Just read Schleck's account of the accident, and you're right -
entirely rider error.

R

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:09:31 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

>Partly. There seemed to be a dark patch in the road - maybe oil? -
>and that can happen to anybody. It's tough when natural instinct
>(putting a foot down) wins out over keeping your ass from flying off
>an embankment. He should have laid it down.

Yeah. Perhaps rider error, perhaps oil. If I heard later his tire
flatted just then I wouldn't be surprised either. But NOT severe
frame flex for those bikes specifically.

raamman@gmail.com

On Jun 19, 8:23*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:09:31 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>
> <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> >Partly. *There seemed to be a dark patch in the road - maybe oil? -
> >and that can happen to anybody. *It's tough when natural instinct
> >(putting a foot down) wins out over keeping your ass from flying off
> >an embankment. *He should have laid it down.
>
> Yeah. Perhaps rider error, perhaps oil. If I heard later his tire
> flatted just then I wouldn't be surprised either. *But NOT severe
> frame flex for those bikes specifically.

not severe flex, but just enough under load- or something else about
the frame- last year at the tdf there were a couple of occaisions
where the csc rider was unable to negoiate the curve on a descent,
whereas other riders did- anyone re-watching the tdf2007 dvds might
just take a note of the number of times a csc rider had trouble on a
curve

sergio

On Jun 19, 2:17 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 5:40 am, John Forrest Tomlinson
> > No way. It's rider error.
> Just read Schleck's account of the accident, and you're right -
> entirely rider error.

There has been quite a discussion about Schleck going astray on
it.sport.ciclismo.
Unanimous consensus is that he got scared when he got to the middle of
the turn. A Swiss guy who knows that road quite well said that that
particular turn is quite tricky, as it does not appear to be so tight
until you are inside of it.
So, Andy appears to have panicked, unclipped without reason and did
not manouver correctly.
Rider's fault, in other words.

Could someone, please, report Schleck's original account?

Sergio
Pisa

Henry

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT), sergio
<servadio@df.unipi.it> wrote:

>On Jun 19, 2:17 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 5:40 am, John Forrest Tomlinson
>> > No way. It's rider error.
>> Just read Schleck's account of the accident, and you're right -
>> entirely rider error.
>
>There has been quite a discussion about Schleck going astray on
>it.sport.ciclismo.
>Unanimous consensus is that he got scared when he got to the middle of
>the turn. A Swiss guy who knows that road quite well said that that
>particular turn is quite tricky, as it does not appear to be so tight
>until you are inside of it.
>So, Andy appears to have panicked, unclipped without reason and did
>not manouver correctly.
>Rider's fault, in other words.
>
>Could someone, please, report Schleck's original account?
>
>Sergio
>Pisa



DA


http://www.ticinolibero.ch/2008/06/...n-andy-schleck/

Nella tappa odierna del Tour de Suisse con arrivo a Caslano,
nell’ultima discesa d’avvicinamento al traguardo, si é sfiorata la
tragedia. Andy Schleck nell’affrontare un tornante a destra, impostava
malamente la curva andando a sbattere contro il guard rail sulla
sinistra. Nell’impatto il corridore della CSC veniva sbalzato di
sotto, volando letteralmente oltre le protezioni. La fortuna o come
mostrato dallo stesso corridore, la medaglietta che portava al collo,
hanno evitato che precipitasse nella valle sottostante fermandosi
probabilmente sui bordi della stessa. Immediatamente ripresosi é poi
risalito in sella ed ha raggiunto il traguardo di Caslano, mostrando
al pubblico la sua medaglietta.


hENRY

Jk

In news:df3l5454aq3runb8pcg5s303a96gt71b06@4ax.com,
Henry ebbe a scrivere con impudicizia:

> Nella tappa odierna del Tour de Suisse con arrivo a Caslano,
> nell'ultima discesa d'avvicinamento al traguardo, si é sfiorata la
> tragedia. Andy Schleck nell'affrontare un tornante a destra, impostava
> malamente la curva andando a sbattere contro il guard rail sulla
> sinistra. Nell'impatto il corridore della CSC veniva sbalzato di
> sotto, volando letteralmente oltre le protezioni. La fortuna o come
> mostrato dallo stesso corridore, la medaglietta che portava al collo,
> hanno evitato che precipitasse nella valle sottostante fermandosi
> probabilmente sui bordi della stessa. Immediatamente ripresosi é poi
> risalito in sella ed ha raggiunto il traguardo di Caslano, mostrando
> al pubblico la sua medaglietta.


non ho mica capito a cosa dovrebbe rispondere sto articolo.
questa è la fredda cronaca vista da fuori, posto che IMNHO cmq non serve a
nulla sentire cosa dichiara Andy a meno di rotture/malfunzionamenti.
E' lampante che nello sbaglio di impostazione di una curva che chiude ha
fatto le scelte peggiori: frenare e togliere il peso dall' interno curva.
Adesso che faccio parte della categoria "ciclista" posso dirlo?
tutte bestie da tiro senza manico :-)
ciao

Donald Munro

raamman wrote:
> not severe flex, but just enough under load- or something else about the
> frame- last year at the tdf there were a couple of occaisions where the
> csc rider was unable to negoiate the curve on a descent, whereas other
> riders did- anyone re-watching the tdf2007 dvds might just take a note of
> the number of times a csc rider had trouble on a curve

So O'Grady could sue Cervelo.