*Two* cyclists on Letterman last night

Mike Jacoubowsky

Kind of a surprise when Steve Carell starts talking about his bike racing
days when he was 12 years old. At first you're thinking, uh-huh, yeah,
really, but then he gets into tubulars and hairnets (which I'm not sure made
sense, given that he's... well, OK, looked it up, he's 46 so maybe). It
would have been fun to see both Steve and Lance on stage at the same time
talking about cycling. Lance was there to promote his new all-encompassing
fixes-everything website (but I don't think he did a very good job of it).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

RicodJour

On Jun 18, 12:17 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Kind of a surprise when Steve Carell starts talking about his bike racing
> days when he was 12 years old. At first you're thinking, uh-huh, yeah,
> really, but then he gets into tubulars and hairnets (which I'm not sure made
> sense, given that he's... well, OK, looked it up, he's 46 so maybe). It
> would have been fun to see both Steve and Lance on stage at the same time
> talking about cycling. Lance was there to promote his new all-encompassing
> fixes-everything website (but I don't think he did a very good job of it).

Didn't this topic come up recently on this newsgroup...?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....e3b4cb29c45bbd#

I agree with your assessment, but I disapprove of your laggardly
reporting. ~

R

Donald Munro

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Lance was there to promote his new
> all-encompassing fixes-everything website (but I don't think he did a very
> good job of it).

Does it cover not getting thrown out of an exclusive restaurant with
mafia based spaghetti sauce ?

2bowlers@gmail.com

On Jun 18, 12:17*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> At first you're thinking, uh-huh, yeah,
> really, but then he gets into tubulars and hairnets (which I'm not sure made
> sense, given that he's... well, OK, looked it up, he's 46 so maybe).

No maybe about it. I'm 42 and raced juniors with a Cinelli hairnet and
my favorite wheelset was a set of 28 spoke Campy high flange hubs
(straight skewers) with were Fiamme red label (hard silver) rims.
Raced strada 66 tires on those most of the time. Training wheels were
various GP4 type rims on Campy record hubs. Pretty much standard stuff
for the time period.

Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
problems. I had offered to keep gluing tubbies for him but he saw the
future as clinchers and adopted early :-)

Mark

RicodJour

On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
> problems.

That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.

R

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:02:57 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
>> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
>> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
>> problems.
>
>That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
>in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
>going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.
>
>R

I rode Weinman concaves across the US in 1984.

Bob Schwartz

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
>> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
>> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
>> problems.
>
> That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
> in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
> going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.

I had a pair of those. If I hadn't thrown them out because they
sucked I'm sure they'd still be good today.

Bob Schwartz

RicodJour

On Jun 18, 10:35 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVE.global.net>
wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
> >> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
> >> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
> >> problems.
>
> > That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
> > in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
> > going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.
>
> I had a pair of those. If I hadn't thrown them out because they
> sucked I'm sure they'd still be good today.

I'm sure you get asked this a lot, but define what you mean by suck.

R

thefronny@gmail.com

On Jun 18, 6:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 18, 12:17 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Raced strada 66

Yeah, 66s put those Setas to shame.

tf

Mike Jacoubowsky

<thefronny@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:62461674-43b6-4400-bdcf-cac92e7dfd6a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
| On Jun 18, 6:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
| > On Jun 18, 12:17 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
|
| > Raced strada 66
|
| Yeah, 66s put those Setas to shame.

Maybe for you. Seemed like I had more issues with cords fraying on the
Strada 66s than with the Criterium Setas. When I felt I needed something
special, I'd spend the extra $3 or $4 for a Criterium Seta Extra. $18 for a
tire???!!! Sigh.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Donald Munro

RicodJour wrote:
> That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on in
> 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's going to
> take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.

I'm sure Ben has a kryptonite nail he removed from his rim still
lying around..

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org

On Jun 18, 10:09*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> <thefro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:62461674-43b6-4400-bdcf-cac92e7dfd6a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> | On Jun 18, 6:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
> | > On Jun 18, 12:17 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> |
> | > Raced strada 66
> |
> | Yeah, 66s put those Setas to shame.
>
> Maybe for you. Seemed like I had more issues with cords fraying on the
> Strada 66s than with the Criterium Setas. When I felt I needed something
> special, I'd spend the extra $3 or $4 for a Criterium Seta Extra. $18 fora
> tire???!!! Sigh.
>

$18 in 1977 is $62 in 2007 when adjusted for
CPI inflation. You used to be able to buy a
candy bar for a quarter, too.

Ben

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 18, 9:47 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:02:57 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>>
>> <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
>> >> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
>> >> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
>> >> problems.
>>
>> >That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
>> >in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
>> >going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.
>>
>>
>> I rode Weinman concaves across the US in 1984.
>
>I've wondered about the apparently negative aerodynamic aspect of the
>concave rim, but since I'm not a weight or air wienie, and I'm cheap
>and don't like having to replace perfectly good things, I doubt I'll
>ever get rid of that wheel. I pretzeled the wheel riding up an
>incline at an angle with a fully loaded bike, and used a telephone
>pole to coax it back roughly into shape so I could ride. Wham!
>Wham! Trued it up that night and, well, I'm still riding it.
>
>What route did you take, JT?

NY to Washington DC, then west to San Francisco, then south to LA.

Bob Schwartz

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 18, 10:35 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVE.global.net>
> wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>> On Jun 18, 8:08 pm, 2bowl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Clinchers back then sucked. My dad made the early jump to wired-ons
>>>> and rode 27" Weinman concaves with Avocet hubs for a long time. Those
>>>> wheels were bulletproof, we even used them on our tandem with no
>>>> problems.
>>> That brings back memories of the front wheel I rode across country on
>>> in 1980. It's still on that same bike and I still ride it. It's
>>> going to take some Kryptonite or a silver bullet to kill that thing.
>> I had a pair of those. If I hadn't thrown them out because they
>> sucked I'm sure they'd still be good today.
>
> I'm sure you get asked this a lot, but define what you mean by suck.

If you built a wheel out of a manhole cover it would
be bulletproof. And it would suck.

Bob Schwartz