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Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically
challenged. I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a FSA Megaexo crank. I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just cruising, then I don't hear any noise. I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank arm actually bolts. Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on (shimano pedals). And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the spider (at least I think it's called the spider). Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and especially when I stand. It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there but fixed that with a bit more grease. Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. Thanks in advance. Steve |
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news:42e070f5-bd11-45ae-b510-5706641a41a6@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com, okaywonderful@gmail.com <okaywonderful@gmail.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > challenged. > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > FSA Megaexo crank. > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > arm actually bolts. > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > (shimano pedals). > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > especially when I stand. > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > Thanks in advance. > > Steve Had the same thing - tightened the stem - cured. |
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On Jun 13, 2:33 pm, okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote:
> Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > challenged. > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > FSA Megaexo crank. > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > arm actually bolts. > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > (shimano pedals). > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > especially when I stand. > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > Thanks in advance. > > Steve You might also check inside the pedals. They can click under load if they have ball bearings and are getting worn. |
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On Jun 13, 4:51 pm, "yclept...@cs.com" <yclep...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2:33 pm, okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > > challenged. > > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > > FSA Megaexo crank. > > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > > arm actually bolts. > > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > > (shimano pedals). > > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > > especially when I stand. > > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Steve > > You might also check inside the pedals. They can click under load if > they have ball bearings and are getting worn. Thanks. I believe I need a special tool for that, but I'll check it. Worthwhile to get in there. |
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On Jun 13, 5:11*pm, okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:51 pm, "yclept...@cs.com" <yclep...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 2:33 pm, okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > > > challenged. > > > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > > > FSA Megaexo crank. > > > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > > > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > > > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > > > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > > > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > > > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > > > arm actually bolts. > > > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > > > (shimano pedals). > > > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > > > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > > > especially when I stand. > > > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > > > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > > > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > > > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > > > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Steve > > > You might also check inside the pedals. They can click under load if > > they have ball bearings and are getting worn. > > Thanks. I believe I need a special tool for that, but I'll check it. > Worthwhile to get in there.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - you can try dripping some light machine oil into the pedal spindle and try to work a bit of it onto the pedal bearings- it might be enough to cure the click and reveal the source of the problem |
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On Jun 13, 12:33*pm, okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote:
> Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > challenged. > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > FSA Megaexo crank. > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > arm actually bolts. > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > (shimano pedals). > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > especially when I stand. > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > Thanks in advance. > > Steve Check the pedals. Ride w/o cycling shoes for a bit and or change pedals and see. Most of the 'noises' we hear are pedal, not crank, based. |
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Just about every bike I've had would make this kind of noise
if I pedaled hard enough. As Jobst Brandt has explained, the pedal-crank attachment is poorly designed and allows the parts to move against each other. See http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8f.10.html I can't say whether that is the source of the noise you are hearing, but I think it is on my bikes. Jobst's solution was to machine conical surfaces on his cranks. I avoid the problem by climbing hills in low gears. Tom Ace |
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<8b3118b8-b81b-4c20-a3e0-feebd45223c4@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Qui si parla Campagnolo <peter@vecchios.com> wrote: > Check the pedals. Ride w/o cycling shoes for a bit and or change > pedals and see. Most of the 'noises' we hear are pedal, not crank, > based. Also try standing and sitting. I have had some creaks originate in the saddle and not the bottom bracket. |
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:56:43 -0500, in rec.bicycles.tech Tim McNamara
<timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: >In article ><8b3118b8-b81b-4c20-a3e0-feebd45223c4@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > Qui si parla Campagnolo <peter@vecchios.com> wrote: > >> Check the pedals. Ride w/o cycling shoes for a bit and or change >> pedals and see. Most of the 'noises' we hear are pedal, not crank, >> based. > >Also try standing and sitting. I have had some creaks originate in the >saddle and not the bottom bracket. Mine comes from my knees. Jones |
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<42e070f5-bd11-45ae-b510-5706641a41a6@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, okaywonderful@gmail.com wrote: > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > challenged. > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > FSA Megaexo crank. > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > arm actually bolts. > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > (shimano pedals). > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > especially when I stand. > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. Stop fixing it and diagnose the problem. (Maybe it is your shoe lace clicking on the crank) My bicycle had a funny creak. It was synchronized with the turning the cranks. That means it could have been saddle or seat post creak or crank spindle attachment too. I looked at the cranks. Nothing. Noticed that the chain wheels were flopping a bit, and the bolts were loose. Fixed the creak. Almost immediately noticed a clicking sound. Intermittent and maddening. Sometimes click, some times not. Noticed that it almost always clicked on left turns. Eventually found a loose spoke on the left of the rear wheel. The impulse to _do_ something is strong. Use it too find imaginative ways of diagnosing. -- Michael Press |
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On Jun 14, 1:48 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article > <42e070f5-bd11-45ae-b510-5706641a4...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > > > > okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote: > > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > > challenged. > > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > > FSA Megaexo crank. > > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > > arm actually bolts. > > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > > (shimano pedals). > > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > > especially when I stand. > > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > Stop fixing it and diagnose the problem. > (Maybe it is your shoe lace clicking on the crank) > > My bicycle had a funny creak. It was synchronized with > the turning the cranks. That means it could have been > saddle or seat post creak or crank spindle attachment too. > I looked at the cranks. Nothing. Noticed that the chain > wheels were flopping a bit, and the bolts were loose. > Fixed the creak. > > Almost immediately noticed a clicking sound. Intermittent > and maddening. Sometimes click, some times not. Noticed > that it almost always clicked on left turns. Eventually > found a loose spoke on the left of the rear wheel. > > The impulse to _do_ something is strong. Use it too find > imaginative ways of diagnosing. > > -- > Michael Press I actually placed a drop of oil on every spoke nipple last night. All the spokes are at the correct tension. I removed the cleats from my shoes, cleaned them, lubed the screws and the cleats. I removed the entire crank, unscrewed the cup bearings, cleaned everything, wrapped Teflon tape around the threads, and reinstalled everything, cleaned and lubed. Hit the road this morning. Nothing for the first half hour. The creaking is gone, but then I had a random, intermittent click. Can't figure out what it is. Driving me nuts. Doesn't seem to happen so much when I'm in a low gear going uphill. Seems to happen more when I'm in the big chainring. For the love of God, someone help me! |
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okaywonderful@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 14, 1:48 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> In article >> <42e070f5-bd11-45ae-b510-5706641a4...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, >> >> >> >> okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically >>> challenged. >>> I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a >>> FSA Megaexo crank. >>> I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from >>> the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when >>> I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just >>> cruising, then I don't hear any noise. >>> I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and >>> torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also >>> applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank >>> arm actually bolts. >>> Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on >>> (shimano pedals). >>> And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the >>> spider (at least I think it's called the spider). >>> Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and >>> especially when I stand. >>> It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there >>> but fixed that with a bit more grease. >>> Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, >>> meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once >>> every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a >>> problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). >>> Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. >> Stop fixing it and diagnose the problem. >> (Maybe it is your shoe lace clicking on the crank) >> >> My bicycle had a funny creak. It was synchronized with >> the turning the cranks. That means it could have been >> saddle or seat post creak or crank spindle attachment too. >> I looked at the cranks. Nothing. Noticed that the chain >> wheels were flopping a bit, and the bolts were loose. >> Fixed the creak. >> >> Almost immediately noticed a clicking sound. Intermittent >> and maddening. Sometimes click, some times not. Noticed >> that it almost always clicked on left turns. Eventually >> found a loose spoke on the left of the rear wheel. >> >> The impulse to _do_ something is strong. Use it too find >> imaginative ways of diagnosing. >> >> -- >> Michael Press > > I actually placed a drop of oil on every spoke nipple last night. All > the spokes are at the correct tension. > > I removed the cleats from my shoes, cleaned them, lubed the screws and > the cleats. > > I removed the entire crank, unscrewed the cup bearings, cleaned > everything, wrapped Teflon tape around the threads, and reinstalled > everything, cleaned and lubed. > > Hit the road this morning. Nothing for the first half hour. The > creaking is gone, but then I had a random, intermittent click. Can't > figure out what it is. Driving me nuts. Doesn't seem to happen so much > when I'm in a low gear going uphill. Seems to happen more when I'm in > the big chainring. > > For the love of God, someone help me! Did you think of the cassette as a possible cause? Put a little oil or grease on every metal to metal interface and torque it to spec (and that is a lot more than most people think). Lou |
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>> okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically >>> challenged. >>> I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a >>> FSA Megaexo crank. >>> I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from >>> the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when >>> I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just >>> cruising, then I don't hear any noise. >>> I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and >>> torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also >>> applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank >>> arm actually bolts. >>> Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on >>> (shimano pedals). >>> And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the >>> spider (at least I think it's called the spider). >>> Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and >>> especially when I stand. >>> It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there >>> but fixed that with a bit more grease. >>> Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, >>> meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once >>> every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a >>> problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). >>> Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> Stop fixing it and diagnose the problem. >> (Maybe it is your shoe lace clicking on the crank) >> >> My bicycle had a funny creak. It was synchronized with >> the turning the cranks. That means it could have been >> saddle or seat post creak or crank spindle attachment too. >> I looked at the cranks. Nothing. Noticed that the chain >> wheels were flopping a bit, and the bolts were loose. >> Fixed the creak. >> >> Almost immediately noticed a clicking sound. Intermittent >> and maddening. Sometimes click, some times not. Noticed >> that it almost always clicked on left turns. Eventually >> found a loose spoke on the left of the rear wheel. >> >> The impulse to _do_ something is strong. Use it too find >> imaginative ways of diagnosing. okaywonderful@gmail.com wrote: > I actually placed a drop of oil on every spoke nipple last night. All > the spokes are at the correct tension. > > I removed the cleats from my shoes, cleaned them, lubed the screws and > the cleats. > > I removed the entire crank, unscrewed the cup bearings, cleaned > everything, wrapped Teflon tape around the threads, and reinstalled > everything, cleaned and lubed. > > Hit the road this morning. Nothing for the first half hour. The > creaking is gone, but then I had a random, intermittent click. Can't > figure out what it is. Driving me nuts. Doesn't seem to happen so much > when I'm in a low gear going uphill. Seems to happen more when I'm in > the big chainring. > > For the love of God, someone help me! Did you lubricate and torque chainring bolts? -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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<07356551-c270-4dc4-8b1c-860f55a378eb@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, okaywonderful@gmail.com wrote: > On Jun 14, 1:48 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > In article > > <42e070f5-bd11-45ae-b510-5706641a4...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > > okaywonder...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Okay, a quick question for those of you who are not mechanically > > > challenged. > > > > > I've got a 2007 Jamis Xenith comp with Shimano 105 components and a > > > FSA Megaexo crank. > > > > > I have been getting an intermittent, very light clicking/creaking from > > > the drivetrain (sounds like it's coming from the crank mostly) when > > > I'm really pedaling hard or standing and pedaling. If I'm just > > > cruising, then I don't hear any noise. > > > > > I recently removed the left crank arm, greased the crank bolts, and > > > torqued them down to the spec listed on the actual crank arm. Also > > > applied a bit of grease (white) to the spindle onto which the crank > > > arm actually bolts. > > > > > Also removed the pedals and greased the threads and put them back on > > > (shimano pedals). > > > > > And I also loosened and then torqued down the crank bolts in the > > > spider (at least I think it's called the spider). > > > > > Still getting the light clicking/creaking when I pedal hard and > > > especially when I stand. > > > > > It's definitely not the handlesbars. Had creaking coming from there > > > but fixed that with a bit more grease. > > > > > Also, the clicking/creaking happens sporadically while pedaling, > > > meaning it doesn't sounds once with every crank revolution or once > > > every 2-3 revolutions, which I believe would mean it could be a > > > problem with the chain (which was replaced roughly 1,000 miles ago). > > > > > Any ideas? Can I provide any more background? Just let me know. > > > > Stop fixing it and diagnose the problem. > > (Maybe it is your shoe lace clicking on the crank) > > > > My bicycle had a funny creak. It was synchronized with > > the turning the cranks. That means it could have been > > saddle or seat post creak or crank spindle attachment too. > > I looked at the cranks. Nothing. Noticed that the chain > > wheels were flopping a bit, and the bolts were loose. > > Fixed the creak. > > > > Almost immediately noticed a clicking sound. Intermittent > > and maddening. Sometimes click, some times not. Noticed > > that it almost always clicked on left turns. Eventually > > found a loose spoke on the left of the rear wheel. > > > > The impulse to _do_ something is strong. Use it too find > > imaginative ways of diagnosing. > > I actually placed a drop of oil on every spoke nipple last night. All > the spokes are at the correct tension. > > I removed the cleats from my shoes, cleaned them, lubed the screws and > the cleats. > > I removed the entire crank, unscrewed the cup bearings, cleaned > everything, wrapped Teflon tape around the threads, and reinstalled > everything, cleaned and lubed. > > Hit the road this morning. Nothing for the first half hour. The > creaking is gone, but then I had a random, intermittent click. Can't > figure out what it is. Driving me nuts. Doesn't seem to happen so much > when I'm in a low gear going uphill. Seems to happen more when I'm in > the big chainring. > > For the love of God, someone help me! I did. You ignored the help. -- Michael Press |
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:26:11 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech
okaywonderful@gmail.com wrote: >For the love of God, someone help me! Sounds like you need a counselor. I have never owned a bicycle (or any mechanical device) that was completely silent. If it's just a little "tic", then get over it; bicycle shops get rich chasing them. Don't make a fetish out of your bicycle! They "tic" sometimes. I hate it worse when people "beep"... there's no reason for that! Jones |
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