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11-06.-2008, 03:35 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
How can you train something called "unplanned" dismount?  On topic: You could learn the basics of parcour, it makes the landing of a UPD way easier, just because you know how to roll out of the landing and transform the force into movement rather then crashing into the pavement. Just as FlybyTire said: Tuck and roll -- Smilymarco 'Municycle.com' (http://www.municycle.com) Lesen -> Denken -> Posten ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Smilymarco's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4110 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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12-06.-2008, 11:30 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Madison(Ducttape on the forums) was in my health class at school and we had to make a 'how to survive pamphlet' he made his as a joke for unicyclists, I guess it will actually be usefull here so I had him email it to me. Here you go! it's supposed to be a brochure so the first page is printed on one side and the second page on the other side and folded accordion style. Hope it helps a little. 27110 -Justin(All from the forums) +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: surviving_a_high_speed_unicycle_crash.pdf | |Download: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/27110 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- They will never find me guess Who..... just don't say who..... cause then I wouldn't be John Doe, who is banned by the way.... of couse only one person knows the password and will be using this account a lot...... Uniman is AWESOME!!"DT" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ They will never find me's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13649 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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13-06.-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Smilymarco wrote: > How can you train something called "unplanned" dismount? > > On topic: > > You could learn the basics of parcour, it makes the landing of a UPD > way easier, just because you know how to roll out of the landing and > transform the force into movement rather then crashing into the > pavement. > > Just as FlybyTire said: Tuck and roll Yeah, it does seem weird to plan for something that's unplanned. But it works! And your suggestions are good: tuck and roll, if possible (and necessary) rather than splatting into the pavement. I sometimes tuck one shoulder in order to make the roll happen more easily (but making sure not to smash my shoulder into the ground -- so far, so good). Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be) wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one of your hands (whichever is closer to the ground at the time, like if you're tilted to one side more than the other). You would not believe how much easier this can make your life. -- David_Stone Dictator for Life, NYUC Check out my blog (or else): http://newyorkunicycle.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David_Stone's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3834 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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13-06.-2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
David_Stone wrote: > Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be) > wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one > of your hands (whichever is closer to the ground at the time, like if > you're tilted to one side more than the other). You would not believe > how much easier this can make your life. Especially if they are equipped with a piece of plastic (nylon?) in the palm of your hand – then you'll glide smoothly along the tarmac. To train the tuck & roll I should perhaps step down to my 20". The height of the Coker feels intimidating. Or I could do it on my way uphill when my nose is already close to the ground. Yes, I've got a big nose. -- goldenchickenIV ------------------------------------------------------------------------ goldenchickenIV's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16391 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 12:26 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
goldenchickenIV wrote: > Especially if they are equipped with a piece of plastic (nylon?) in the > palm of your hand – then you'll glide smoothly along the tarmac. > > To train the tuck & roll I should perhaps step down to my 20". The > height of the Coker feels intimidating. Or I could do it on my way > uphill when my nose is already close to the ground. > > Yes, I've got a big nose. Just ride in grass really fast (as fast as you can) and then take a foot off the pedal and step off the front you'll either be able to run it out or you'll trip and be forced to learn how to tuck and roll, just remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if you fall with a backpack on. -- They will never find me guess Who..... just don't say who..... cause then I wouldn't be John Doe, who is banned by the way.... of couse only one person knows the password and will be using this account a lot...... Uniman is AWESOME!!"DT" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ They will never find me's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13649 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 02:35 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
David_Stone wrote: > I sometimes tuck one shoulder in order to make the roll happen more > easily (but making sure not to smash my shoulder into the ground -- so > far, so good). This is the preferred method of rolling, as taught in Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido and other arts. Rolling head-on (straight forward) incurs the risk of landing on one's head or spine. Being that we don't wear spine protection, I'd advise against a head-on roll on any hard surface. Rolling shoulder-on (over one shoulder) mitigates this risk as well as provides a softer landing. > Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be) > wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one > of your hands *NO! DON'T!* I would not give out such advice as this can (and has in the past) lead to dislocations of the wrist / shoulder, or broken arms / collar bones. Most people, when reaching out, lock the elbow in such a way that the wrist and shoulder can take the full load of the fall. The proper technique is to present a curved arm to the ground. Ideally, the "knife edge" (pinky side) of the hand will contact the ground first. [image: http://www.yorkjitsu.org/graphics/f...forwards_1.jpg] Here are a few illustrations of a proper roll: (beginning at 1:48) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93w6aw26Ls This video illustrates a roll that ends in standing position. At high speed, this type of roll will prevent most injuries, but it can take a lot of space... you might even end up having to take a few steps or another roll to come to a complete stop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rizlP_I0E6c The second video illustrates a "roll-out" where the ground is used to absorb all of the energy of the fall. This can be a bit hard on the legs and knees, but is a good technique to learn when you must stop immediately. Same technique here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...507111040683911 -- maestro8 Those are my principles. If you don't like those, I have others. -- Groucho Marx The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity. -- François-Marie Arouet de Voltaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------ maestro8's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7871 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 07:36 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Not to sidetrack the conversation, I think of a UPD as an unexpected dismount that you end up on your feet. When you land off your feet, that is a fall. So although, a fall can be unplanned, it's not a UPD. Is this a common/accurate distinction? -- Chrashing Regards, Ken I've been flying....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chrashing's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7501 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 07:57 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Chrashing wrote: > Not to sidetrack the conversation, > > I think of a UPD as an unexpected dismount that you end up on your > feet. When you land off your feet, that is a fall. So although, a fall > can be unplanned, it's not a UPD. Is this a common/accurate distinction? I consider a UPD to be any sort of unplanned dismount from the unicycle, if I end up on my feet or off my feet it's still an unplanned dismount so that's what I call it. -- They will never find me guess Who..... just don't say who..... cause then I wouldn't be John Doe, who is banned by the way.... of couse only one person knows the password and will be using this account a lot...... Uniman is AWESOME!!"DT" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ They will never find me's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13649 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
They will never find me wrote: > I consider a UPD to be any sort of unplanned dismount from the unicycle, > if I end up on my feet or off my feet it's still an unplanned dismount > so that's what I call it. OK, I think you are right. My first understanding the UPD was different, as I listed, but hadn't seen a fall differentiated from an UPD. Thank you. -- Chrashing Regards, Ken I've been flying....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chrashing's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7501 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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14-06.-2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
What I consider a UPD is: When you're just riding, and all of a sudden, you get off your uni. I don't think an UPD is when you fall when diong a trick. But just when riding along normaly. -- Emile.m Ntappin wrote: > > I'm a butcher, and it took me like 10 minutes to get one nub off my > luna. 2nd *)---TreFlip-'O, M'y galler' (http://tinyurl.com/23w828)y ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Emile.m's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16667 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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15-06.-2008, 03:17 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
They will never find me wrote: > ...just remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if > you fall with a backpack on. Actually, I use my camelbak to my advantage a lot of times. I'm not very good at running out my falls  ...but on the brightside, it hasresulted in me perfecting a falling style that works for me: I typically fall off the front, making contact once with each foot before initiating the rolling sequence. I usually make first contact with my right hand, which helps me guide the motion. Then in the process of rolling over my right shoulder, I turn my body to land smoothly on the camelbak, which I then grind against the pavement until I come to a stop .-- Chexjc aim: guitardude88 http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jasoncheckla 'SixSixOne' (http://sixsixone.com/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chexjc's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13511 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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15-06.-2008, 03:18 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Emile.m wrote: > What I consider a UPD is: > > When you're just riding, and all of a sudden, you get off your uni. I > don't think an UPD is when you fall when diong a trick. But just when > riding along normaly. exactly, that's always how I think of them, when falling doing a trick, I call it a wipeout, or bail:P -- isaac steiner zfreak220 wrote: > so Isaac had a "hazmat" moment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ isaac steiner's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13943 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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15-06.-2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
Chexjc wrote: > Actually, I use my camelbak to my advantage a lot of times. I'm not very > good at running out my falls ...but on the brightside, it has resulted> in me perfecting a falling style that works for me: > > I typically fall off the front, making contact once with each foot > before initiating the rolling sequence. I usually make first contact > with my right hand, which helps me guide the motion. Then in the > process of rolling over my right shoulder, I turn my body to land > smoothly on the camelbak, which I then grind against the pavement until > I come to a stop .camelbaks aren't too bulky I guess I should have been clearer, school bags are what prevent rolling... at least usually they do because they tend to be bulky and grip the road and such a little too well. -- They will never find me kevinalexandersmith wrote: > > Ahh... middle aged kids are just like middle aged men... concerned > about how much hair they have, and getting a young girlfriend and cool > car.[/QUOTE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ They will never find me's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13649 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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15-06.-2008, 07:30 AM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
I always classed a UPD as falling off without meanting too, thus unplanned. But getting ready and training for when it happens makes it a lot less painfull and scary, because you can get out of it safely. 'break rolls, over the sholder and running out of it helps a lot, its a simple parkour move and is very usefull.' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcEnv3iE9Ww) -- 1-wheeled-grape Scott, Getting ready for the summer holidays! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1-wheeled-grape's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/15877 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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24-06.-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: How to train UPDs?
"just remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if you fall with a backpack on." Never mind UPDs, three weeks ago I had a FALL! I was on my way home from work with my back pack on with my lap top, a change of clothes, several charts to finish at home that night, then I stopped off at the store, picked up a bottle of wine, a yellow pepper, meat, etc, etc. Between the store and home I rode under a branch that has been growing down into my line of travel. Having gotten tired of avoiding this branch the previous few days I grabbed at it to try and debulk it. That was a grave cognitive error. An error which my cerebellum and motor cortex were unable to overcome. I fell. My gloves and helmet earned their keep that day. I did a one arm outstretched poor approximation of a role. I rolled right over my laptop and the bottle of wine which was neatly stashed in the right side pocket of my backpack. Luckily I rolled to the left. Unfortunately the yellow pepper was in the left side pocket. My brand new laptop survived without a scratch. The bottle of wine was completely intact proving that Gawd loves us. Behold, a miracle has befallen us. Alas, the yellow pepper was mortally wounded. I was forced to eat it to get it out of its misery. Final tally: 1 sprained left wrist (good thing I didn't sprain my other left wrist). Road rash on my left knee (I only have one of those) Road rash on my left shoulder. Proving to me that I did, in fact, roll. I wasn't monitoring my progress during the fall. I had to rely on the forensic evidence. A smash mark on my helmet, but NOT my head. A pretty deep pedal scrape on my right thigh. One dead pepper. The unicycle was fine, aside from some crooked handlebars. Three weeks later, my wrist is almost back to normal, the road rash is healed and the pepper is still dead. Thanks for the link to the Ukemi video. That's something I've got to try, about three thousand times so that I don't have to think about what I'm doing. So it becomes so ingrained in my brain that it'll be just like riding a uni. I'm just not sure I want to practice rolling with my laptop in my backpack. -- naturequack monocycle monstrosity  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ naturequack's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16649 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70557 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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