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10-06.-2008, 06:59 AM
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Frankenstein drivetrain
Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following
setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting cleanly with this mish-mash of components: 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact double http://www.universalcycles.com/shop...26&category=521 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25 http://www.universalcycles.com/shop...46&category=537 4. Ultegra hubs 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chain http://www.universalcycles.com/shop...5&category=2768 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur 7. IRD CD compact front derailleur http://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front derailleur? Thanks, Aaron |
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10-06.-2008, 07:52 AM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 9, 2:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > derailleur? > > Thanks, > Aaron Crankset will work fine with any chain and system including campy 10 speed. chain will too veloce rear and any front will work fine the cassette will work if it has the proper campy spacing |
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10-06.-2008, 11:38 AM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 9, 1:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > derailleur? > > Thanks, > Aaron Looks good to me. Although you can also feel free to use any Shimano- spaced 9 or 10 speed cassette instead. C10 spacing is halfway between the two, and any of the three work fine. A SRAM PG-950 12-26 9 speed actually shifted better for me in an otherwise Campy-10 setup than did the AC conversion cassette. My CX bike has Veloce ergos and UT compact crank, a Centaur long cage RD, and a SRAM PG-970 11-34 cassette. I get a 1:1 low gear, and it shifts great. I guess the other question is whether the Ergos are QS or not. If they are, a Campy QS FD might work better, but if you already have the IRD, give it a try. On that CX bike, I'm using a pre-QS Record Carbon (non- compact) double, and it works fine with the QS Veloce Ergos. |
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10-06.-2008, 10:26 PM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 9, 2:59*pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > derailleur? > > Thanks, > Aaron No, That'll work fine. |
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10-06.-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 9, 7:38*pm, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 1:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde..html > > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > > derailleur? > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > Looks good to me. Although you can also feel free to use any Shimano- > spaced 9 or 10 speed cassette instead. C10 spacing is halfway between > the two, and any of the three work fine. A SRAM PG-950 12-26 9 speed > actually shifted better for me in an otherwise Campy-10 setup than did > the AC conversion cassette. My CX bike has Veloce ergos and UT compact > crank, a Centaur long cage RD, and a SRAM PG-970 11-34 cassette. I get > a 1:1 low gear, and it shifts great. > > I guess the other question is whether the Ergos are QS or not. If they > are, a Campy QS FD might work better, but if you already have the IRD, > give it a try. On that CX bike, I'm using a pre-QS Record Carbon (non- > compact) double, and it works fine with the QS Veloce Ergos. 'QS' on Record and Chorus mean nothing. The innards of these 'QS' levers are the same as pre 'QS'. |
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10-06.-2008, 10:59 PM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 10, 5:27 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com>
wrote: > On Jun 9, 7:38 pm, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 9, 1:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > > > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > > > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > > > derailleur? > > > > Thanks, > > > Aaron > > > Looks good to me. Although you can also feel free to use any Shimano- > > spaced 9 or 10 speed cassette instead. C10 spacing is halfway between > > the two, and any of the three work fine. A SRAM PG-950 12-26 9 speed > > actually shifted better for me in an otherwise Campy-10 setup than did > > the AC conversion cassette. My CX bike has Veloce ergos and UT compact > > crank, a Centaur long cage RD, and a SRAM PG-970 11-34 cassette. I get > > a 1:1 low gear, and it shifts great. > > > I guess the other question is whether the Ergos are QS or not. If they > > are, a Campy QS FD might work better, but if you already have the IRD, > > give it a try. On that CX bike, I'm using a pre-QS Record Carbon (non- > > compact) double, and it works fine with the QS Veloce Ergos. > > 'QS' on Record and Chorus mean nothing. The innards of these 'QS' > levers are the same as pre 'QS'. I didn't make that clear enough, my Ergos are Veloce QS. The old Record part is the FD. |
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11-06.-2008, 02:41 AM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 9, 6:38 pm, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 1:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > > derailleur? > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > Looks good to me. Although you can also feel free to use any Shimano- > spaced 9 or 10 speed cassette instead. C10 spacing is halfway between > the two, and any of the three work fine. A SRAM PG-950 12-26 9 speed > actually shifted better for me in an otherwise Campy-10 setup than did > the AC conversion cassette. My CX bike has Veloce ergos and UT compact > crank, a Centaur long cage RD, and a SRAM PG-970 11-34 cassette. I get > a 1:1 low gear, and it shifts great. > > I guess the other question is whether the Ergos are QS or not. If they > are, a Campy QS FD might work better, but if you already have the IRD, > give it a try. On that CX bike, I'm using a pre-QS Record Carbon (non- > compact) double, and it works fine with the QS Veloce Ergos. Hank, Thanks. The Veloce Ergos I have are pre-QS, so if the IRD FD will work acceptably I'd go with that since I already have one laying around. And since I have a couple of spare Shimano-hubbed wheelsets laying around and will need to buy cassettes for them, my thought was to get the American Classic conversion cassette. You say that you get better shift quality with the SRAM 9-speed cassette. So would you recommend it over the C-10? IRD also makes conversion cassettes, which I would consider if they work better. But they are much more expensive than the AC C-10. |
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11-06.-2008, 03:29 AM
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Re: Frankenstein drivetrain
On Jun 10, 9:41*am, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 6:38 pm, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 1:59 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone see any compatibility issues with running the following > > > setup? Someone raised doubts about the Sugino chainrings shifting > > > cleanly with this mish-mash of components: > > > > 1. Campy Ergo 10-sp levers > > > > 2. Sugino Alpina2 compact doublehttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16826&... > > > > 3. American Classic conversion 10-sp cassette 12-25http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5046&c... > > > > 4. Ultegra hubs > > > > 5. KMC Superlight 10-speed chainhttp://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=15995&... > > > > 6. Campy Veloce short cage rear derailleur > > > > 7. IRD CD compact front derailleurhttp://store.interlocracing.com/cdfrde.html > > > > Would it behoove me to stick with a Campy crankset and front > > > derailleur? > > > > Thanks, > > > Aaron > > > Looks good to me. Although you can also feel free to use any Shimano- > > spaced 9 or 10 speed cassette instead. C10 spacing is halfway between > > the two, and any of the three work fine. A SRAM PG-950 12-26 9 speed > > actually shifted better for me in an otherwise Campy-10 setup than did > > the AC conversion cassette. My CX bike has Veloce ergos and UT compact > > crank, a Centaur long cage RD, and a SRAM PG-970 11-34 cassette. I get > > a 1:1 low gear, and it shifts great. > > > I guess the other question is whether the Ergos are QS or not. If they > > are, a Campy QS FD might work better, but if you already have the IRD, > > give it a try. On that CX bike, I'm using a pre-QS Record Carbon (non- > > compact) double, and it works fine with the QS Veloce Ergos. > > Hank, > Thanks. The Veloce Ergos I have are pre-QS, so if the IRD FD will work > acceptably I'd go with that since I already have one laying around. > > And since I have a couple of spare Shimano-hubbed wheelsets laying > around and will need to buy cassettes for them, my thought was to get > the American Classic conversion cassette. You say that you get better > shift quality with the SRAM 9-speed cassette. So would you recommend > it over the C-10? > > IRD also makes conversion cassettes, which I would consider if they > work better. But they are much more expensive than the AC C-10.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - In my experience, C10 is the best match for an otherwise C10 drivetrain, on Campy-hubbed wheels. The SRAM 9-speed cassette may not have exact spacing, but the cogs have better shaped ramps than the AC cassette. As a bonus, it's a third of the price. But there's no shame in wanting your 10-speed system to have 10 speeds. Any of the options you mention will work, and work well, but the SRAM 9-speed is by far the cheapest if you have Shimano hubs. |
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