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Old 06-06.-2008, 08:04 AM   #1
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php...jun08/jun06news

Hamilton up to his old tricks, still talking about his battle thru injuries, a broken bone in the hand or wrist this time.

wtf does he need out sympathy. If the guy came out and told the truth...
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Old 06-06.-2008, 08:08 AM   #2
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He perceives his whole life and sense of self-worth as being based on maintaining the lie. Pathetic... but human unfortunately.
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Old 06-06.-2008, 08:09 AM   #3
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I think the article on Rass vs. Rabobank is more interesting. He's seeking 5.5 mil euro in damages. Hopefully he wins a little bit of money so he can start eating again.
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I think the article on Rass vs. Rabobank is more interesting. He's seeking 5.5 mil euro in damages. Hopefully he wins a little bit of money so he can start eating again.
I always thought he had emails that showed Rabo knew that he was in Italy. You'd think that he would have something on them for institutional doping over the years... even if it was unrelated to the specifics of the TdF fiasco. Perhaps both parties were so diligent about destroying evidence... that there is none.
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Old 06-06.-2008, 09:06 AM   #5
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Screw him. I raced for four year with a broken scaphoid bone in my wrist and I am a wimp and am not getting paid. He should just shut up and ride.

Actually, no matter what I think about him now, what he did in the Giro and the Tour with the shoulders was incredible.
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But I agree the boy scout image has to be put aside and he has to tell the truth.
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I always thought he had emails that showed Rabo knew that he was in Italy.

Well who is "Rabo"? Just because Breukink and De Rooy knew doesn't mean the guys who were signing the checks knew. And that's who ultimately does the hiring and firing. Didn't they also get rid of Breukink or De Rooy or both of them too?
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Well who is "Rabo"? Just because Breukink and De Rooy knew doesn't mean the guys who were signing the checks knew. And that's who ultimately does the hiring and firing. Didn't they also get rid of Breukink or De Rooy or both of them too?
Good point... thanks...
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now that Haven is out of the picture, he was with a smokeing hot Blond this weekend, maybe he will tell the truth and say his old lady made him lie.
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Well who is "Rabo"? Just because Breukink and De Rooy knew doesn't mean the guys who were signing the checks knew. And that's who ultimately does the hiring and firing. Didn't they also get rid of Breukink or De Rooy or both of them too?
True, but management knew which makes them and by default the company somewhat culpable. I think he has a valid case - maybe not a 5.5 mil euro case, but we'll see.
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True, but management knew which makes them and by default the company somewhat culpable. I think he has a valid case - maybe not a 5.5 mil euro case, but we'll see.
I originally thought the same thing... because mostly here in the US... management is the company...

However if the company finds out that three guys under their employ are colluding in nefarious activities and they sack them... can one of the employees who is sacked file suit against the company claiming that the other two knew about it... therefore the company knew about it? I got in a mindfuck on that one.
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I originally thought the same thing... because mostly here in the US... management is the company...

However if the company finds out that three guys under their employ are colluding in nefarious activities and they sack them... can one of the employees who is sacked file suit against the company claiming that the other two knew about it... therefore the company knew about it? I got in a mindfuck on that one.
I think it depends on the title of the employee that knew. For example, where I work (big high tech place) if it was a Director or above well then the company knew.

I think that Rabo will settle out of court on this one as they don't want people testifying under oath. I'm sure that a lot of people knew where Ras was, and probably what he was doing.
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I think that Rabo will settle out of court on this one as they don't want people testifying under oath. I'm sure that a lot of people knew where Ras was, and probably what he was doing.

For the moment they appear to be talking a good game and claim Rass didn't present anything in court dealing with who knew what that wasn't already established. You'd think a big company like Rabobank would have quality lawyers who wouldn't get them into a bind, but I guess you never know.
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I originally thought the same thing... because mostly here in the US... management is the company...

However if the company finds out that three guys under their employ are colluding in nefarious activities and they sack them... can one of the employees who is sacked file suit against the company claiming that the other two knew about it... therefore the company knew about it? I got in a mindfuck on that one.

rabobank corporate know they dope, did you read the whitewash report they conducted?
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Rabobank is a huge commercial banking entity here in the Old World. They are sure to have all the good lawyers they need.
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