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Dylan Welch and Dan Emerson
May 8, 2008 About 50 cyclists - including Australian racer Kate Nichols, who was injured in a 2005 German road racing crash in which a teammate was killed - have been involved in a hit-and-run crash in Sydney this morning. The resulting smash forced a semitrailer to lock up, jackknife and screech to a halt behind the cyclists while cars had to swerve to avoid them. Full article here: http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2...l?page=fullpage |
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Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers
wouldnt get upset. In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts you at fault regardledd of reason. Also the cyclists "didnt have time to stop". They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a safe distance. If people want to ride race style they need to do it on a closed course. If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting it they wouldnt have problems. Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones at fault were the careless cyclists On May 27, 4:43*pm, "aeiouy" <aei...@vowels.com> wrote: > Dylan Welch and Dan Emerson > May 8, 2008 > > About 50 cyclists - including Australian racer Kate Nichols, who was injured > in a 2005 German road racing crash in which a teammate was killed - have > been involved in a hit-and-run crash in Sydney this morning. > > The resulting smash forced a semitrailer to lock up, jackknife and screech > to a halt behind the cyclists while cars had to swerve to avoid them. > > Full article here: > > http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2...ck/2008/05/08/1... |
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On May 27, 7:11 pm, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers > wouldnt get upset. In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts > you at fault regardledd of reason. Also the cyclists "didnt have time > to stop". They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a > safe distance. If people want to ride race style they need to do it > on a closed course. If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting > it they wouldnt have problems. Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones > at fault were the careless cyclists 1) The article described the Ford driver's actions as swerving into the lane and intentionally braking. How do you turn that into 'failing to maintain a safe distance'? 2) Can car drive side by side where you live? Is that racing? The cyclists were two abreast as local law allows. 3) There were 60 of them. How is that not 'traffic'? 4) The Ford driver caused a wreck, then left the scene despite injured people all over the place. How is that not 'hit and run'? You worry me. |
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bigjimpack@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers > wouldnt get upset. In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle > puts > you at fault regardledd of reason. Also the cyclists "didnt have > time > to stop". They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a > safe distance. If people want to ride race style they need to do > it > on a closed course. If they rode like traffic instead of > disrupting > it they wouldnt have problems. Hardly a "hit and run" The only > ones > at fault were the careless cyclists Are you hanging around here because your cave was condemned by the board of health? |
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So why was the driver charged? |
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<bigjimpack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:32905293-e117-4e38-8259-dbb3f759584b@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers wouldnt get upset. In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts you at fault regardledd of reason. Also the cyclists "didnt have time to stop". They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a safe distance. If people want to ride race style they need to do it on a closed course. If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting it they wouldnt have problems. Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones at fault were the careless cyclists <- - - - - - - - - -> * Pretty weak reply....only made a 1 1/2 on the Troll-o-meter On May 27, 4:43 pm, "aeiouy" <aei...@vowels.com> wrote: > Dylan Welch and Dan Emerson > May 8, 2008 > > About 50 cyclists - including Australian racer Kate Nichols, who was > injured > in a 2005 German road racing crash in which a teammate was killed - have > been involved in a hit-and-run crash in Sydney this morning. > > The resulting smash forced a semitrailer to lock up, jackknife and screech > to a halt behind the cyclists while cars had to swerve to avoid them. > > Full article here: > > http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2...ck/2008/05/08/1... |
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Australians are fools- they take away citizens' guns and drive on the
wrong side On May 27, 11:16*pm, mitosis <mitosis.3a3...@no- mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote: > bigjimp...@gmail.com Wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers > > wouldnt get upset. *In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts > > you at fault regardledd of reason. *Also the cyclists "didnt have time > > to stop". *They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a > > safe distance. * If people want to ride race style they need to do it > > on a closed course. *If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting > > it they wouldnt have problems. *Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones > > at fault were the careless cyclists > > > On May 27, 4:43*pm, "aeiouy" <aei...@vowels.com> wrote: > > > Dylan Welch and Dan Emerson > > > May 8, 2008 > > > > About 50 cyclists - including Australian racer Kate Nichols, who was > > injured > > > in a 2005 German road racing crash in which a teammate was killed - > > have > > > been involved in a hit-and-run crash in Sydney this morning. > > > > The resulting smash forced a semitrailer to lock up, jackknife and > > screech > > > to a halt behind the cyclists while cars had to swerve to avoid > > them. > > > > Full article here: > > >http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2...ck/2008/05/08/1... > > So why was the driver charged? > > -- > mitosis- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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There is no excuse for riding two abreast on a public road. Cars only
drive two abreast on a TWO LANE road. There is no excuse for the cyclists' action. They should ride single file as far to the right as possible with a safe distance between them. Thei own fault they caused this accident. On May 27, 9:55*pm, Brian Huntley <brian_hunt...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On May 27, 7:11 pm, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers > > wouldnt get upset. *In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts > > you at fault regardledd of reason. *Also the cyclists "didnt have time > > to stop". *They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a > > safe distance. * If people want to ride race style they need to do it > > on a closed course. *If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting > > it they wouldnt have problems. *Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones > > at fault were the careless cyclists > > 1) The article described the Ford driver's actions as swerving into > the lane and intentionally braking. How do you turn that into 'failing > to maintain a safe distance'? > 2) Can car drive side by side where you live? Is that racing? The > cyclists were two abreast as local law allows. > 3) There were 60 of them. How is that not 'traffic'? > 4) The Ford driver caused a wreck, then left the scene despite injured > people all over the place. How is that not 'hit and run'? > > You worry me. |
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<bigjimpack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:32905293-e117-4e38-8259-dbb3f759584b@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... Maybe if the stupid a** cyclists didnt obstruct traffic drivers wouldnt get upset. In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts you at fault regardledd of reason. how about deliberately, and without signalling, changing lanes on a multi lane road and then braking suddenlt as did this turkey ? Also the cyclists "didnt have time to stop". They were breaking another law by failing to maintain a safe distance. there was no traffic ahead of them, in their lane, until the car driver cut them off If people want to ride race style they need to do it on a closed course. these people were riding two abreast, as allowed by law, on a multi lane public road If they rode like traffic instead of disrupting it they wouldnt have problems. who says they were disrupting the traffic ? Hardly a "hit and run" The only ones at fault were the careless cyclists hit and run it was for sure, and failure to stop and render assistance after involvement in a road accident --- ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) . . . bjbear on his treadly |
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<bigjimpack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:23778293-ccf0-4fa2-ac07-91b89c458d4e@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... There is no excuse for riding two abreast on a public road. Cars only drive two abreast on a TWO LANE road. but this was a multi lane road, and the law in this country allows cyclists and motor cyclists to ride two abreast There is no excuse for the cyclists' action. your opinion, and ignorant as it is you are entitled to it They should ride single file as far to the right as possible with a safe distance between them. wrong again buddy - in this country we travel on the left side of the road Thei own fault they caused this accident. fortunately the authorities [NSW Police] do not agree with your summation of the situation __ __ __ _ __ /__/ / /__/ /_ /_\ /_ / /_ / _ / /__/ /__ / \ / \ ....Kawasaki Zephyr barry j taylor < taylorja@aapt.net.au > Skype: ursus_australis ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) . . . bjbear on his treadly |
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<bigjimpack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:09bdaea2-f337-4e43-ad2a-f4442d7fed86@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... Australians are fools- they take away citizens' guns and drive on the wrong side T R O L L ...... --- a friendly growl from the bear on the Zephyr that roars __ __ __ _ __ /__/ / /__/ /_ /_\ /_ / /_ / _ / /__/ /__ / \ / \ ....Kawasaki Zephyr barry j taylor < taylorja@aapt.net.au > Skype: ursus_australis ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) . . . bjbear on his treadly |
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<bigjimpack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:09bdaea2-f337-4e43-ad2a-f4442d7fed86@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... Australians are fools- they take away citizens' guns and drive on the wrong side You have proven you have no place in civilized discourse. You have nothing to add but hate and bigotry. <plonk> |
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 02:53:53 -0700, bigjimpack wrote:
> There is no excuse for riding two abreast on a public road. Cars only > drive two abreast on a TWO LANE road. There is no excuse for the > cyclists' action. They should ride single file as far to the right as > possible with a safe distance between them. Thei own fault they > caused this accident. I'm not in Australia but on most of the one-lane (in each direction) roads around here, it wouldn't have made any difference whether the cyclists were riding two abreast. There isn't enough room for a car to pass *without getting into the opposite lane* even with just one bike riding as far right as possible. (in any case, in Australia don't you want them riding as far *left* as possible?!) This sounds like the same kind of driver who tailgates & cuts people off on the freeway if they dare pass slow trucks while going less than 20 over the speed limit. The same kind that blows through red lights. I'll bet if you stuck a camera in this guy's car for a week your tape would show enough moving violations against other motorists to get his license yanked. I luckily have almost no trouble with this while cycling but have sure run into (almost literally) way too many of them while driving. |
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Pat wrote:
> <bigjimpack@gmail.com> (AKA Little Jimmy Buttpacker) wrote in message: > news:09bdaea2-f337-4e43-ad2a-f4442d7fed86@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > Australians are fools- they take away citizens' guns and drive on the > wrong side > You have proven you have no place in civilized discourse. You have > nothing to add but hate and bigotry. > > <plonk> In case anyone wondered why I plonked "Little Jimmy Buttpacker" (a tribute to his homophobic gay-bashing, by the way), now you know. Bill "avoid the Christmas rush; block him today" S. |
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On May 27, 6:11*pm, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote:
<snip> > In mosy states hitting the rear of a vehicle puts > you at fault regardledd of reason. * <snip> Not true, the person hitting the rear is commonly found at fault, depending on the situation, but there is no "law" stating this as an absolute rule, at least in "most states". I rear ended a Porsche on the highway many years ago, when he pulled out from a stop in the adjacent lane right in front of me, and he got the ticket. It is uncommon but more than you think, and the cyclists were in a very similar situation, even more so when the driver slammed on his brakes purposefully - that is generally specifically against the law. Rick |
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