repro decals

jim@landoloons.com

I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the
decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top
tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black;
I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.

On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro
decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people
who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current
source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the
trails have gone cold.

Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?

John Thompson

On 2008-05-26, jim@landoloons.com <jim@landoloons.com> wrote:

> I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the
> decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top
> tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black;
> I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
>
> On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro
> decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people
> who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current
> source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the
> trails have gone cold.
>
> Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?

Greg Softley in Coff's Harbour Australia:
http://stores.ebay.com/Cyclomondo

--

John (john@os2.dhs.org)

Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com

On May 26, 4:53*pm, j...@landoloons.com wrote:
> I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the
> decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top
> tube. *The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black;
> I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
>
> On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro
> decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people
> who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current
> source of reproduction decals. *All the links I find are dead, all the
> trails have gone cold.
>
> Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?

http://www.cyclart.com

still just me

On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:22:23 -0500, John Thompson
<john@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:

>Greg Softley in Coff's Harbour Australia:
>http://stores.ebay.com/Cyclomondo

Yes, Greg is the way to go. He also lists on Ebay but mostly in his
store now.

If he does not list what you want, he will often make it for you if
you work with him to figure out the specifics.

John Thompson

On 2008-05-28, still just me <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:22:23 -0500, John Thompson
><john@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
>
>>Greg Softley in Coff's Harbour Australia:
>>http://stores.ebay.com/Cyclomondo
>
> Yes, Greg is the way to go. He also lists on Ebay but mostly in his
> store now.
>
> If he does not list what you want, he will often make it for you if
> you work with him to figure out the specifics.

And just because you don't see what you want in his store doesn't mean
that he doesn't have the appropriate art filed away someplace from which
to make a set of decals.

--

John (john@os2.dhs.org)

20cents

In article
<90474349-7d2a-4087-9160-b3ca6ac81713@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
jim@landoloons.com wrote:

> I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the
> decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top
> tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black;
> I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
>
> On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro
> decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people
> who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current
> source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the
> trails have gone cold.
>
> Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?

If you have the time and patience you can make your own using an inkjet
printer or color photocopier:
<http://www.lazertran.com/>

cheers,
20cents

Kerry Montgomery

"20cents" <noreply@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:noreply-88E262.16435231052008@news.bigpond.com...
> In article
> <90474349-7d2a-4087-9160-b3ca6ac81713@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> jim@landoloons.com wrote:
>
>> I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the
>> decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top
>> tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black;
>> I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
>>
>> On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro
>> decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people
>> who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current
>> source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the
>> trails have gone cold.
>>
>> Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
>
> If you have the time and patience you can make your own using an inkjet
> printer or color photocopier:
> <http://www.lazertran.com/>
>
> cheers,
> 20cents

Time may be a problem with the inkjet ones - most color inkjet ink is made
with dyes that will fade over time, especially with exposure to sunlight.
Most color laser toner is made with pigments, and is much more stable.
Kerry

jim@landoloons.com

I'd already found Cyclomondo on Ebay and sent a message (via Ebay).
No reply. I suppose I could try again...

jim@landoloons.com

> Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately
I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for
a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've
seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's
no simple answer to this one...

still just me

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:06:33 -0700 (PDT), jim@landoloons.com wrote:

>
>> Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
>That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately
>I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for
>a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've
>seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's
>no simple answer to this one...

Try this email address: gtsoftley@ozemail.comDOTau (replace the DOT
with a ".") Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a
great guy to work with.

In a test of inkjet inks, most were found to fade in about 5 years.
Epson's pigmented inks were good for about 90 years.

That said, I'd still go with Greg's work. He already has most
Motobecane decals from that era worked out. Since he has the font,
churning out what you need should not be difficult.

jim@landoloons.com

On Jun 2, 4:12 pm, still just me <wheeledBobNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:06:33 -0700 (PDT), j...@landoloons.com wrote:
>
> >> Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film.
> >> --
> >> Andrew Muzi
> >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> >That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately
> >I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for
> >a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've
> >seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's
> >no simple answer to this one...
>
> Try this email address: gtsoft...@ozemail.comDOTau (replace the DOT
> with a ".") Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a
> great guy to work with.
>
> In a test of inkjet inks, most were found to fade in about 5 years.
> Epson's pigmented inks were good for about 90 years.
>
> That said, I'd still go with Greg's work. He already has most
> Motobecane decals from that era worked out. Since he has the font,
> churning out what you need should not be difficult.

Thanks, I'll ring him again.

jim@landoloons.com

On Jun 2, 4:12 pm, still just me <wheeledBobNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:06:33 -0700 (PDT), j...@landoloons.com wrote:
>
>
> Try this email address: gtsoft...@ozemail.comDOTau (replace the DOT
> with a ".") Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a
> great guy to work with.
>
>

I've tried several permutations of that address but they bounced. I
understand the part about replacing the 'DOT' but what's with the
three periods before the '@'?

James Thomson

<jim@landoloons.com> a écrit:

> I've tried several permutations of that address but they bounced. I
> understand the part about replacing the 'DOT' but what's with the
> three periods before the '@'?

Googlegroups disguises the address to prevent automated address harvesting
from newsgroup posts. If you were using a different newsreader you would
see:

gtsoftley at ozemail etc

James Thomson

jim@landoloons.com

Ok I emaied gtsoffley and let's just say - he is not able to help.
Does anyone know of any other source of repro decals?