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http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0...5016213,00.html
Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run From staff reporters May 08, 2008 AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot. The group of professional cyclists were riding south on Southern Cross Drive, just south of Dacey Avenue, witnesses told Fairfax media. A driver, agitated with being held up, accelerated in front of the pack and then slammed on his brakes, witnesses said. Nichols was one of five national team members injured in the 2005 road crash in Germany in which team member Amy Gillett was killed. Nichols said the cyclists were going at a good clip, two abreast as they are required to, when a car pushed them towards the edge of the road. "The car came past us squishing us into our lane," Nichols said in a statement issued through Cycling Australia. "And then the guy went in front of us and slammed on his brakes. He was just a total moron. "A heap (of us) came off, but everyone just had superficial wounds and we were all treated there." It is understood an off-duty policeman was in a car following the group and the cyclists took the number plate of the car before it sped off. There were no serious injuries but most cyclists suffered cuts, bruises, sprains and possible fractures. "A lot of people had superficial cuts and grazes, and there'll be a bit of checking for broken bones and the like, but at this stage it looks like we are very, very lucky that no one was seriously injured," Cycling Australia spokeswoman Gennie Sheer said. <some more snipped> |
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"David Springthrope" <david.springthrope@idxx.com.au> wrote in message news:ibo424104qj1qtvnbjogqntac5sn1j97al@4ax.com... > http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0...5016213,00.html > > Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run > From staff reporters > May 08, 2008 > > AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 > riders > involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot. > > The group of professional cyclists were riding south on Southern Cross > Drive, > just south of Dacey Avenue, witnesses told Fairfax media. > > A driver, agitated with being held up, accelerated in front of the pack > and then > slammed on his brakes, witnesses said. > > Nichols was one of five national team members injured in the 2005 road > crash in > Germany in which team member Amy Gillett was killed. > > Nichols said the cyclists were going at a good clip, two abreast as they > are > required to, when a car pushed them towards the edge of the road. > > "The car came past us squishing us into our lane," Nichols said in a > statement > issued through Cycling Australia. > > "And then the guy went in front of us and slammed on his brakes. He was > just a > total moron. > > "A heap (of us) came off, but everyone just had superficial wounds and we > were > all treated there." > > It is understood an off-duty policeman was in a car following the group > and the > cyclists took the number plate of the car before it sped off. > > There were no serious injuries but most cyclists suffered cuts, bruises, > sprains > and possible fractures. > > "A lot of people had superficial cuts and grazes, and there'll be a bit of > checking for broken bones and the like, but at this stage it looks like we > are > very, very lucky that no one was seriously injured," Cycling Australia > spokeswoman Gennie Sheer said. > > <some more snipped> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says, scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool (ie castrated and executed) |
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David Springthrope wrote:
> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0...5016213,00.html > > Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run > From staff reporters > May 08, 2008 > > AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders > involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot. about $30K worth of damage, I hope they stick the stupid bastard in gaol and sue him for every last cent. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 12:35:56 +1000, zog <zog@hotmail.com> wrote:
>David Springthrope wrote: >> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0...5016213,00.html >> >> Aussie cyclists in hit-and-run >> From staff reporters >> May 08, 2008 >> >> AUSTRALIAN cyclists Kate Nichols and Ben Kersten were among about 50 riders >> involved in a hit-and-run crash in the Sydney suburb of Mascot. > >about $30K worth of damage, I hope they stick the stupid bastard in gaol >and sue him for every last cent. And use his dead arse for a bicycle rack. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <verb@nobodyathome.com> wrote:
> > it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says, > > scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool > > (ie castrated and executed) > Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others? But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts. I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve. Good thing they got the number plates. |
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"Yeah Right" <get@real.com> wrote in message news p.uate6uyiii53mm@owner-7982cc89d...> On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <verb@nobodyathome.com> wrote: > > >> >> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says, >> >> scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool >> >> (ie castrated and executed) >> > > Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others? > violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT USE PHYSICAL FORCE. i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is. > But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts. violent criminals should be castrated. there are already too many people in this world. breeding is NOT a right. violent people should be the first ones removed from the gene pool. immigrant criminals should be DEPORTED. (note the pricks that harrass us roadies are usually 'aussies' - bogans - who ride in falcadoors - or some vulgar tasteless 'HOTROD' - cultural scum) > > I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and > almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve. > > Good thing they got the number plates. if i was in control, roadies would be PROTECTED. |
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In article <4822724e$0$13943$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"verb" <verb@nobodyathome.com> wrote: > "Yeah Right" <get@real.com> wrote in message > news p.uate6uyiii53mm@owner-7982cc89d...> > On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:21:24 +0800, verb <verb@nobodyathome.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> it doesnt matter what 'morality' or christianity' says, > >> > >> scum who exact violence upon others should be removed from the gene pool > >> > >> (ie castrated and executed) > >> > > > > Um, isn't castrating and executing exacting violence upon others? > > > > > violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT > USE PHYSICAL FORCE. Well, that's a load of rubbish. Iraq is a classic example of your solution and my opinion is that it has not worked there (or anywhere else it has been tried). That is why we have a police service: to uphold the law. > > i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is. Not a paradox, just wrong. > > > But yeah, the moron should be severely punished in the courts. > > violent criminals should be castrated. there are already too many people in > this world. Interesting logic. > breeding is NOT a right. violent people should be the first ones removed > from the gene pool. I can think of several other 'classes' that would have an equal claim for 'first removal' status but go to a totalitarian regime if that is the society you want. > immigrant criminals should be DEPORTED. A black and white solution. Great thinking Einstein. > (note the pricks that harrass us roadies are usually 'aussies' - bogans - > who ride in falcadoors - or some vulgar tasteless 'HOTROD' - cultural scum) Bring out the tar bucket. Time to paint some Holden and Ford owners. > > > > > I read elsewhere that a semi-trailer right behind the group jacknifed, and > > almost wiped them out, and cars behind the semi had to swerve. > > > > Good thing they got the number plates. > > if i was in control, roadies would be PROTECTED. If you were in control they would need to be protected. This nutter spoiled what was otherwise a serious topic. regards, 20cents |
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> > violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT > USE PHYSICAL FORCE. > > i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is. > It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'. Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though! G-S |
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On May 8, 7:45 pm, G-S <ge...@castbus.com.au> wrote:
> verb wrote: > > > violent poeple win when GOOD NONVIOLENT PEOPLE DONT > > USE PHYSICAL FORCE. > > > i understand that is a paradox, but that is the way that it is. > > It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that > the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'. > > Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though! > > G-S Not to joke about it, but I feel for the victims of this assault. Let's hope that the appropriate charges are made here (eg. dangerous driving, assault with a weapon with intention to kill). Australia is a very civilised country - let's hope that it stays that way. I don't think the community tolerates the use of a car as a weapon, and that the penalty imposed reflects that. In a less civilised country, there is no doubt that he would not see the sun rise tomorrow. It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you have a registration number. |
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All a rego number tells the authorities is who the registered owner is. Doesn't inform who was actually driving the vehicle or where they are now. A rego number also doesn't predict how much the alleged driver will try to get their legal representation to get them off the charges once the case slowly gets to court or what the verdict outcome eventually is etc ... |
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> AndrewJ Wrote: > >>It's a very simple process to locate somebody once you >>have a registration number. > > > All a rego number tells the authorities is who the registered owner is. > Doesn't inform who was actually driving the vehicle or where they are > now. A rego number also doesn't predict how much the alleged driver will > try to get their legal representation to get them off the charges once > the case slowly gets to court or what the verdict outcome eventually is > etc ... > > The registered owner of the car is responsible for the manor which the vehicle was used. If he was not the offending driver then he has to nominate the responsible party or he accepts responsibility for the offence. Marcus Einfield case comes to mind. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:45:55 +1000, G-S wrote:
> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though! Oh, I don't know, a sharp knife and a quick cut and it will be over before they realise. Fairly effortless if you know what you are doing and get the cut in as soon as they hid the ground and before they start kicking. I'll skip the barbie afterwards though. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 23:48:31 +1000, G-S <geoff@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>> It isn't that physical force doesn't need to be used, rather it is that >> the minimum needed force should be used be 'goof nonviolent people'. >> >> Castration and execution is hardly 'minimum needed force' though! >> >> >> G-S > >That should of course have been 'good' not 'goof'. That's okay, we understood - we all make goofs now and again.... |
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That's very disturbing, yet somewhat educational at the same time. |
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In the complete absence of anything really sensible in the media regarding yesterdays 'road rage' incident in Sydney, Alan Odds from the newly-formed National Roads and Cyclists Association has issued this press release:
NRCA: Evans inflames an already hostile situation http://www.mynrca.com.au/road_rage.pdf |
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