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Old 29-04.-2008, 07:36 AM   #1
Ekul Namsob
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I've had my post-turbo training shower interrupted by my wife ringing to
tell me that she's been knocked off her bike. She claims to be fine but
has been dispatched to hospital to be ticked off for not wearing a
helmet and to have her arm and head examined.

The police have dropped off her bike: the rear wheel, the one with the
Nexus hub, is clearly knackered.

As my daughter's in bed, I now face a few hours waiting for SWMBO to
return from hospital.

Luke

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Old 29-04.-2008, 07:45 AM   #2
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Ekul Namsob wrote:
> I've had my post-turbo training shower interrupted by my wife ringing to
> tell me that she's been knocked off her bike. She claims to be fine but
> has been dispatched to hospital to be ticked off for not wearing a
> helmet and to have her arm and head examined.
>
> The police have dropped off her bike: the rear wheel, the one with the
> Nexus hub, is clearly knackered.
>
> As my daughter's in bed, I now face a few hours waiting for SWMBO to
> return from hospital.
>
> Luke
>

Sorry to hear the news. Please let us know how things go.

Glad to hear the police were sufficiently involved to drop the back
back, although that tends to lead me to believe that the injuries were
significant.
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Old 29-04.-2008, 12:28 PM   #3
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In article <_rsRj.68084$yk5.12238@newsfe18.lga>, Jeff
no_answer@pegguru.com says...

> Glad to hear the police were sufficiently involved to drop the back
> back, although that tends to lead me to believe that the injuries were
> significant.
>

What an odd thing to say. A bump on the head usually gets a trip to
hospital and it's usually nothing to worry about. Monday nights are
generally pretty quiet, so why not return the bike if it's in their
patrol area and there's nothing much going on?
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Old 29-04.-2008, 07:53 PM   #4
Ekul Namsob
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Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> In article <_rsRj.68084$yk5.12238@newsfe18.lga>, Jeff
> no_answer@pegguru.com says...
>
> > Glad to hear the police were sufficiently involved to drop the back
> > back, although that tends to lead me to believe that the injuries were
> > significant.
> >

> What an odd thing to say. A bump on the head usually gets a trip to
> hospital and it's usually nothing to worry about. Monday nights are
> generally pretty quiet, so why not return the bike if it's in their
> patrol area and there's nothing much going on?


Indeed. SWMBO is shaken and bruised but the bike (more specifically, the
pannier rack and hub-geared rear wheel) appears to have had most of the
damage.

There were a number of witnesses to the accident, which appears to have
been caused by a driver trying to overtake her on the inside on a small
roundabout.

Cheers,
Luke


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Old 29-04.-2008, 08:56 PM   #5
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In article <1ig5olr.32lrmba4ad69N%
notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com>, Ekul Namsob
notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com says...

> There were a number of witnesses to the accident, which appears to have
> been caused by a driver trying to overtake her on the inside on a small
> roundabout.
>

Did he stop?
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Old 30-04.-2008, 03:57 AM   #6
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Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> In article <1ig5olr.32lrmba4ad69N%
> notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com>, Ekul Namsob
> notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com says...
>
> > There were a number of witnesses to the accident, which appears to have
> > been caused by a driver trying to overtake her on the inside on a small
> > roundabout.
> >

> Did he stop?


Yes. He also repeatedly stated how sorry he was.

Cheers,
Luke


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Old 30-04.-2008, 07:38 AM   #7
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Rob Morley wrote:
> In article <_rsRj.68084$yk5.12238@newsfe18.lga>, Jeff
> no_answer@pegguru.com says...
>
>> Glad to hear the police were sufficiently involved to drop the back
>> back, although that tends to lead me to believe that the injuries were
>> significant.
>>

> What an odd thing to say. A bump on the head usually gets a trip to
> hospital and it's usually nothing to worry about. Monday nights are
> generally pretty quiet, so why not return the bike if it's in their
> patrol area and there's nothing much going on?

My wording may not have been the best.

From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be interested in
bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The fact that the
police attended the incident (and, hence, were able to return the
bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were likely significant.

Perhaps the police in that area are more interested in cyclists'
wellbeing than in other areas.
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Old 30-04.-2008, 09:57 PM   #8
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:38:41 -0500, Jeff <no_answer@pegguru.com> wrote:

> From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be
> interested in bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The
> fact that the police attended the incident (and, hence, were able
> to return the bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were
> likely significant.


Police attended when I was deliberately run off the road. It was
after the event that the couldn't be arsed to do anything about it.

They'll probably attend to make sure the traffic is not held up
unnecessarily. They don't like motor traffic to be delayed.

regards, Ian SMith
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Old 30-04.-2008, 10:31 PM   #9
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In article <NrNRj.68488$yk5.62788@newsfe18.lga>, Jeff
no_answer@pegguru.com says...

> From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be interested in
> bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The fact that the
> police attended the incident (and, hence, were able to return the
> bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were likely significant.
>
> Perhaps the police in that area are more interested in cyclists'
> wellbeing than in other areas.
>

//
261. If another person is injured and you do not produce your insurance
certificate at the time of the accident to a police officer or to anyone
having reasonable grounds to request it, you MUST
! report the accident to the police as soon as possible and in any
case within 24 hours
! produce your insurance certificate for the police within seven
days.
//
I guess the driver reported the incident on his mobile phone, there was
a car in the area and they went to check it out. Maybe the driver
thought it was worse than it was - a small cut on the scalp can produce
impressive amounts of blood, for instance.
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Old 03-05.-2008, 06:29 AM   #10
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Ian Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:38:41 -0500, Jeff <no_answer@pegguru.com> wrote:
>
>> From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be
>> interested in bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The
>> fact that the police attended the incident (and, hence, were able
>> to return the bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were
>> likely significant.

>
> Police attended when I was deliberately run off the road. It was
> after the event that the couldn't be arsed to do anything about it.
>
> They'll probably attend to make sure the traffic is not held up
> unnecessarily. They don't like motor traffic to be delayed.


There was an interview with a top copper a while back, and he claimed
that he liked traffic to be held up after serious RTAs, so that people
would take note, and hopefully drive more carefully. He said he hates it
when there has been a serious RTA, and the local radio stations tell
motorists to avoid the area.

Martin.
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Old 03-05.-2008, 10:05 PM   #11
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Martin Dann wrote:
>
> Ian Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:38:41 -0500, Jeff <no_answer@pegguru.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be
>>> interested in bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The
>>> fact that the police attended the incident (and, hence, were able
>>> to return the bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were
>>> likely significant.

>>
>> Police attended when I was deliberately run off the road. It was
>> after the event that the couldn't be arsed to do anything about it.
>>
>> They'll probably attend to make sure the traffic is not held up
>> unnecessarily. They don't like motor traffic to be delayed.

>
> There was an interview with a top copper a while back, and he claimed
> that he liked traffic to be held up after serious RTAs, so that people
> would take note, and hopefully drive more carefully. He said he hates it
> when there has been a serious RTA, and the local radio stations tell
> motorists to avoid the area.


What a peculiar attitude.
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Old 06-05.-2008, 01:06 AM   #12
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Jeff <no_answer@pegguru.com> wrote:

> From what I've seen and heard, the police tend not to be interested in
> bicycle accidents unless someone is badly hurt. The fact that the
> police attended the incident (and, hence, were able to return the
> bicycle), to me, signaled that the injuries were likely significant.
>
> Perhaps the police in that area are more interested in cyclists'
> wellbeing than in other areas.


I think that may be the case. We have now been told that the driver is
to be charged with Driving Without Due Care and Attention. Apparently,
he was bemused at this idea, not understanding that one is not supposed
to drive into other road users. He is also to be invited to attend a
road safety course.

Cheers,
Luke


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Old 06-05.-2008, 06:35 PM   #13
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> I think that may be the case. We have now been told that the driver is
> to be charged with Driving Without Due Care and Attention. Apparently,
> he was bemused at this idea, not understanding that one is not supposed
> to drive into other road users. He is also to be invited to attend a
> road safety course.
>

Be very careful here. I was hit by a right turning vehicle early last year.
The driver was also charged with DWDC and offered a road safety course. The
driver in question ignored the invitation (i.e neither accepted nor
declined) and the subsequent delay meant that when it did get to court, the
magistrate threw it out because too much time had elapsed since the
incident.

Needless to say the driver has also failed to notify their insurance
company, so I am having to take a civil action against the driver to recover
my uninsured losses.

Just because the police are involved, and just because the driver is insured
does not mean things are clear cut, other than that , hope things go well
for you.



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