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22-02.-2008, 11:41 PM
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Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
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23-02.-2008, 12:56 AM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
That's an interesting development. This will allow some riders who are truly innocent to clear their names. But if some riders do volunteer their DNA to clear their names, it will cast suspicion on riders who don't volunteer, and who knows, race organizers may use these as excuses for excluding such riders. Let us see what Contador does. Isn't he one of the persons who volunteered DNA in the past?
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23-02.-2008, 01:02 AM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
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It will also allow those who did use Fuentes but know that they used up all the blood they had stored to "prove" they are innocent. The spanish authorities need a complete analysis of all of Fuentes papers, computer files, and bank records.
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23-02.-2008, 01:08 AM
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23-02.-2008, 01:20 AM
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The spanish authorities will probably do whatever it take to let Contador and Valverde get away with working with Fuentes. Meanwhile, a poor SOB like Hamilton could have his blood tested, knowing that Fuentes was busted two years after Hamilton stopped working with him. None of his blood is likely to be stored. But he will still have OP hanging over him because of the doping records. It does not seem like there is any way for Hamilton to get out from under OP short of confesssing. I don't see why the french authorities don't charge Fuentes with something like conspiracy to commit fraud. Basso has admitted that was what he intended to do. They should file charges against Fuentes and lean on him to reveal everyone he was working with.
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23-02.-2008, 01:28 AM
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23-02.-2008, 01:32 AM
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23-02.-2008, 01:40 AM
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Basso and Fuentes were conspiring to defraud the Tour de France out of prize money.
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23-02.-2008, 03:13 AM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
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entirely a supposition on this angle, but if fuentes used a french bank account or, perhaps the transaction were begun using a french bank account would the surete have an opening to ask for a look at the files in the spanish police station?
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23-02.-2008, 04:04 AM
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We French can resolve all big world problems, you just have to vote for the greatest of them :
Don't vote republicans, (it could be stupid gwb twin) Don't vote Hilary Don't vote Obama VOTE POULIDOR as US PRESIDENT! |
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23-02.-2008, 07:03 AM
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In saying all that... remember Basso always said 'you' can test my DNA as part of an investigation thinking that an Italian investigation would never start..... Conador said much the same..... now would he volunteer ? Would he make the statement.. Astana should be allowed in the Tour because I'm giving my DNA ? He wont do it because I know, he knows it and Bruyneel knows it.... Astana for Tour argument over. Let Levi wank ? |
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23-02.-2008, 07:07 AM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
Probably Contador's blood has been spooned into sink as footballer's blood
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23-02.-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
There was a generic fraud case.
Those cycist won prize money doped. That was against specific publicised rules. Surely that qualifies under numerous fraud statutes. Alas, it is all about political will |
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23-02.-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: Reopening Puerto: DNA checking allowed to voluntary
Valverde's chances of winning the Tour just went out the window. It is only a matter of time before the ASO demands that riders suspected in OP get a DNA comparison?
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23-02.-2008, 02:52 PM
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Yup. If France truly is worried that the doping will harm one of the greatest tourism advertisements in the world then they should charge people with ordinary financial fraud. Aside from getting to the bottom of OP, it would increase the risks for getting caught doping.
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