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Old 11-12.-2007, 06:57 AM   #1
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Default Cycling Peaks - MMP vs. Peak

Trying to plot my 20m and 60m peak NP over time. The closest I can get in CP is a periodic chart of content = mean maximal, channel = NP, for the selected durations of 20m and 60m. But the figures in the resulting chart don't match up to the "Peak" 20m and 60m figures for the individual exercise.

What is the difference between mean maximal NP and peak NP for a given duration for the same workout?
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Old 11-12.-2007, 10:17 AM   #2
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Trying to plot my 20m and 60m peak NP over time. The closest I can get in CP is a periodic chart of content = mean maximal, channel = NP, for the selected durations of 20m and 60m. But the figures in the resulting chart don't match up to the "Peak" 20m and 60m figures for the individual exercise.

What is the difference between mean maximal NP and peak NP for a given duration for the same workout?
The MMP chart will pick out the real MM NP figure for each workout (for the period chosen in the chart - daily, weekly etc).

In the individual ride files, it doesn't show you the MM NP. What it shows is the MM AP and the corresponding NP for that AP period where your average power was highest. That may not correspond to the same period where NP was highest (although it can correspond). Sometimes there is an overlap of when the two actually occur.
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Old 11-12.-2007, 11:28 AM   #3
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The MMP chart will pick out the real MM NP figure for each workout (for the period chosen in the chart - daily, weekly etc).

In the individual ride files, it doesn't show you the MM NP. What it shows is the MM AP and the corresponding NP for that AP period where your average power was highest. That may not correspond to the same period where NP was highest (although it can correspond). Sometimes there is an overlap of when the two actually occur.
Thanks Alex!

In terms of charts, is there a difference between the Athlete Home page and the Chalkboard? Or is the Chalkboard simply more space to fit charts that you can't see w/o scrolling on the Athlete Home page?

Is there a way to move charts between the two pages?
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Old 11-12.-2007, 12:00 PM   #4
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Thanks Alex!

In terms of charts, is there a difference between the Athlete Home page and the Chalkboard? Or is the Chalkboard simply more space to fit charts that you can't see w/o scrolling on the Athlete Home page?

Is there a way to move charts between the two pages?


The chalkboard function is so you can narrow the data from which the charts are drawn. So you can only select races files or a specific type of workout file and then see charts based only on that data. Files are selected on the Calendar page, with the far left 'x' (default is all files selected.)

I don't think there is a way to move charts between the two.
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The chalkboard function is so you can narrow the data from which the charts are drawn. So you can only select races files or a specific type of workout file and then see charts based only on that data. Files are selected on the Calendar page, with the far left 'x' (default is all files selected.)
Or from the files selected by using the calendar search function.

Eg, say you include in the ride description the words "MAP Test". Then use the search line in the athlete calendar to show only those files with the words "MAP Test". Then go to chalkboard and create a 1 min MMP chart to show your progress in MAP Test results only.
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Old 11-12.-2007, 02:19 PM   #6
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Thanks, charting the filtered workouts is a useful feature. And the search function means that I need to start labeling my workouts!

If you create a workout "code" that you no longer want, is there any way to edit the list of workout codes that appears in the dropdown menu on the Calendar page?
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Thanks, charting the filtered workouts is a useful feature. And the search function means that I need to start labeling my workouts!

If you create a workout "code" that you no longer want, is there any way to edit the list of workout codes that appears in the dropdown menu on the Calendar page?
No but if you no longer want it, what does it matter if it's still in there?
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Old 12-12.-2007, 12:49 AM   #8
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Thanks, charting the filtered workouts is a useful feature. And the search function means that I need to start labeling my workouts!

If you create a workout "code" that you no longer want, is there any way to edit the list of workout codes that appears in the dropdown menu on the Calendar page?
I'm quite sure that if you remove that 'code' from all of your workouts, it will no longer appear in the drop down.

Couple more things I have found for Chalkboard:

- When I change the settings on the calendar page and then hit 'Update Chalboard', I often have to go to the Chalboard page, return to Calendar page and hit 'Update Chalboard' again to get it to update.

- For a Chalkboard graph: If I double click it to make it full size and change a parameter with Customize, it no longer uses only the Chalkboard data. I think that it reverts to 'All Data'. The graph on the Chalboard page continues to use the Chalkboard data; only the exploded graph changes.

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I'm quite sure that if you remove that 'code' from all of your workouts, it will no longer appear in the drop down.
Turns out it does. Just not right away. You have to exit and restart the program. Nice.
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Thanks Terry-
I'll check into it!
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I'm quite sure that if you remove that 'code' from all of your workouts, it will no longer appear in the drop down.

Couple more things I have found for Chalkboard:

- When I change the settings on the calendar page and then hit 'Update Chalboard', I often have to go to the Chalboard page, return to Calendar page and hit 'Update Chalboard' again to get it to update.

- For a Chalkboard graph: If I double click it to make it full size and change a parameter with Customize, it no longer uses only the Chalkboard data. I think that it reverts to 'All Data'. The graph on the Chalboard page continues to use the Chalkboard data; only the exploded graph changes.

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