epo

getting_faster

First time poster, and i know that for a first post this is a highly controversial topic. I have reached a plateau in my training where no matter how many miles I get in a week (around 250 right now) I am unable to get any faster on the bike, and get beaten by people that train less. I have been considering taking EPO for some time now, and have asked around some local gyms and all I can seem to find is testosterone and steroids which I have no interest in. If someone could pm me or post with advice in my search it would be greatly appreciated.

matagi

Do you have a coach? Have you been varying the type of training you do? Rather than immediately jump to the chemical enhancement option, try getting a coach (if you don't already have one) or if you do, you should be discussing the plateau with him/her. Your body also adapts to training, which is why you need to mix it up to keep improving.

Is it really worth the risk of killing yourself to get a bit faster on the bike? Because that's what can happen if you use EPO without appropriate medical supervision and you are unlikely to get that since your use would not fit into the defined medical criteria.

Bro Deal

http://www.eposino.com

But if you are not racing pro then this is just stupid. Risking death for bragging rights and a few bucks, which won't cover your doping costs, does not make sense.

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Scotty_Dog

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Japheth

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archive...85082.Me.r.html

check this site out:

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Date: Sat Jun 10 08:20:48 2000
Posted By: Howard Stacey, Staff, Pharmacology, Webster-netwizzard
Area of science: Medicine
ID: 960244346.Me
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Message:


Hi Eric,
EPO is generally well tolerated, side effects can include chest pain,
swelling due to fluid retention, tachicardia(rapid heart rate) and head
pain, shortness of breath/skin rash, joint pain, diarrhea and sometimes
flu like symptoms.
Use of aspirin prior to use can minimise side effects. It is possible, as
the blood can become dangerously thick, to use intavenous saline solution
and diruretics to fool blood tests."

It appears relatively obvious to me that, as these statements suggest, there is much danger for EPO users.
Furthermore, this was posted in 2000, and I could not find much else on EPO risks. I assume that the scientific and medical communities have in recent years found enough evidence to stop researching EPO risks and have moved on to other research. Like steroids, EPO has been conclusively *rejected* by athletes, scientists, trainers, coaches, etc, so that:
a) the sports community now sees EPO as unnecessary
b) later on, ie in the future, people on EPO will be viewed as the exception, not the rule, in athletic success.

Japheth

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bikerboy

Wow. What about all the cat. 1 dudes riding 5hrs every day who will never go pro?

espy010

that eposino.com site looks like a scam, they only accept cash or money orders. Send me a bunch of cash to my po box, and i promise you i will send you your epo. yeah right.

Bro Deal

Yeah, Chinese companies selling drugs and illegally shipping them to the U.S. always take Visa. You can always go to Mexico...

This brings up another risk. The OP did not say where he is located, but if you were to be busted for importing drugs that require prescription into the U.S. and a prosecutor was hard nosed about it then you will have huge problems in the future. If a potential employer sees that you have a drug conviction they are not going to look too far into what happened. They will see the word "drug" and toss your application in the garbage.

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janiejones

yeah right! sod off

SoDakker

This activity is not so much controversial as it is illegal.

As a licensed physician, I will tell you that what you propose to do is: 1.) Illegal. 2.) Unsafe. 3.) Illegal. If you actually find some quack (Websters quack n. 1 an untrained person who practices medicine fraudulently) to supervise this illegal activity, then you will be receiving the kind of medical supervision that you are asking for: fraudulent, dangerous and illegal. If you actually get your hands on some epo, my advice is that you inject it directly into the trash can. Did I mention what you want to do is illegal?

As a competitive athlete, I will tell you that what you propose to do is cheating pure and simple.