Indurain better climber than Armstrong?!

m.indurain

Here you find the best times for the climb of Alpe d Huez:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpe_d'Huez

37'36'' Armstrong 2004 (Time Trial)
38'05'' Armstrong 2001
38'10'' Indurain 1995

As you can read in the link the distance for indurains time was 700 m longer. If you assume a average speed for those 700 m of 50 km/h you have the following virtual armstrong-times:

38'26'' Armstrong 2004 (Time Trial)
38'55'' Armstrong 2001

So Armstrong could not even beat the Indurain-Time in a time trial (Indurain had Madeleine and Croix the Fer in his legs). Indurains weight was about 79 kg and Armstrongs weight 71 kg ... The weight of Armstrongs bike was about 1 - 2 kg less than indurains ...

And Pantani 1995: He rode the climb 1'36'' faster than Armstrong in Time Trial!

m.indurain

Some data of the world championships in Columbia 1995:

Date: 8th of october 1995 (!!!)
Length: 265,5 km (15 x 17,7 km)
Height Meters Total: 4.725 (!!!)
Lowest point of the race: 2.540 m (!!!)
Highest point of the race: 2.850 m (!!!)
Riders, who finished the race: 20

1st Olano (ESP, Indurain allowed him to attack and controlled Pantani)
2nd Indurain (ESP)
3rd Pantani (ITA)

So, who says that Indurain was not a very good clymber?

Savagewolf

I think the key part of cycling is tying it all together, and doing it consistantly. It's one thing to be the best at one skill. It's a whole other thing when you are at or near the top in many things and can do it consistancy.

Wearing the yellow jersy at the end is usually the difference in the two.

m.indurain

Cycling is not only TDF. It is - not only - also Giro, world championships and olympic games.

lwedge

It would have been great to see them race against each other in their prime.

lw

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DiabloScott

Yeah, but Pantani was a doper.

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m.indurain

And Armstrong and Indurain were no dopers ...




For your information:

Indurain and Armstrong were tested positive (Armstrong 1999). Pantani was never tested positive. But im am sure he doped as Armstrong and Indurain.

earthbound

Sorry to correct you but neither Indurain or Armstrong have ever failed a doping test. Pantani was tested in the 1999 Giro with only a couple of days to go and whilst leading on GC and his blood test failed the haematocrit level and he was disqualified from the race.