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Old 25-06.-2006, 04:31 AM   #1
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Default Crappy Marin Chain Rings

I thought I'd post this to the MTB forum as well as the equipment forum in the hope that I might get a specific response from this forum, or at least make people aware of a potential issue with Marin's chosen chain rings.

I have had a 2006 Rock Springs for a VERY short period of time, the bike has done about 100 miles so far, and to date the front crank has F***ed up twice. Once the whole crank was flapping around in the bottom bracket leading to the chain jamming and the chain set being replaced. The second time ehe middle chain ring seems to have bent in use leading to the chain jamming between the middle and top chain rings. This has happened after 40 miles the first time and then less than 30 on the replacement. I believe that the chain set is maufactured by deore

My question's are:

1) Is this a common fault that people have experienced before

2) do I:

a) demand a new bike
b) let them fix it again with the promise that one more failure = new bike
c) demand an immediate full refund and go buy a bike that works

Any advice greatfully received

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Old 02-08.-2006, 07:02 PM   #2
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Default Re: Crappy Marin Chain Rings

Man you must be steaming.

I have rarely heard of supplier’s swopping for a new bike though,

although i think you deserve one.

They will repair the problems, remember to get every thing recorded what was replaced when, where and why. REMEMBER THE KNOCK ON EFFECT OF FAILED COMPONENTS.Chainring damages chain, damages rear derailier, streches cable, damages rear cassette.
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Old 03-08.-2006, 11:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: Crappy Marin Chain Rings

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I thought I'd post this to the MTB forum as well as the equipment forum in the hope that I might get a specific response from this forum, or at least make people aware of a potential issue with Marin's chosen chain rings.

I have had a 2006 Rock Springs for a VERY short period of time, the bike has done about 100 miles so far, and to date the front crank has F***ed up twice. Once the whole crank was flapping around in the bottom bracket leading to the chain jamming and the chain set being replaced. The second time ehe middle chain ring seems to have bent in use leading to the chain jamming between the middle and top chain rings. This has happened after 40 miles the first time and then less than 30 on the replacement. I believe that the chain set is maufactured by deore

My question's are:

1) Is this a common fault that people have experienced before

2) do I:

a) demand a new bike
b) let them fix it again with the promise that one more failure = new bike
c) demand an immediate full refund and go buy a bike that works

Any advice greatfully received

Angry of England

+1...the drive train on my Bobcat Trail lasted one season...even had the chain break within the first few months

But Marin does have a good warranty, and their customer service is excellent...your lbs will be able to arrange a warranty adjustment with the distributor

good luck!
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Old 04-08.-2006, 12:11 AM   #4
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Default Re: Crappy Marin Chain Rings

Your first problem would most likely be caused by the crank not being properly tightened on the bottom bracket, and it managed to work its way loose. Depending on how significant this problem was, it may have damaged the splines on either the bottom bracket or crankset. I would have expected them to replace the crankset and bottom bracket. Clear case of assembly error.

The second problem, ehh dunno what happened there, chainrings are pretty tough and it takes a lot to bend one. It may have happened the other way around: the chain jammed, then pedal pressure applied a force on the chain in a strange direction that managed to bend a chainring tooth?

Is the middle ring actually bent, or is that what you suspect because the chain managed to derail off both rings? If the latter, chain derailments just happen from time to time, and is a sign that the derailleur tension/limit adjustments need some tweaking.

The second problem is a little less obvious.. error in shifter operation can cause the chain to derail and jam, however it can also potentially happen with a new drivetrain whose shift cables have undergone a significant amount of initial stretch without being readjusted. (The cables only stretch a certain amount though; once readjusted it should keep its tension for the life of the cable) It may have also occurred due to a 'stiff link' in the chain, or some other chain fault that caused it not to track on the chainring properly.

Usually these sorts of faults are fairly obvious in riding: when the cables go through initial stretch, shifting performance will go down the toilet; and a chain with a stiff link will rattle and clatter every time the stuck link goes through any tight bends (e.g. rear derailleur)

With regard to shifting; most shift errors and unintentional derailments occur when you're acting against the spring of the derailleur. (When using the large lower paddle.) These errors can be minimised by pressing and holding the paddle, keeping force on the cable, until the shift completes.

When shifting the 'other way', the spring in the derailleur provides the force necessary to perform the shift, so it's a quick tap-tap type operation.
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