Rove threatens Judiciary Repubs, fears impeachment

Wurm

Rove counting heads on the Senate Judiciary Committee


The White House has been twisting arms to ensure that no Republican member votes against President Bush in the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation of the administration's unauthorized wiretapping.

Congressional sources said Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove has threatened to blacklist any Republican who votes against the president. The sources said the blacklist would mean a halt in any White House political or financial support of senators running for re-election in November.

"It's hardball all the way," a senior GOP congressional aide said.

The sources said the administration has been alarmed over the damage that could result from the Senate hearings, which began on Monday, Feb. 6. They said the defection of even a handful of Republican committee members could result in a determination that the president violated the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Such a determination could lead to impeachment proceedings.

Over the last few weeks, Mr. Rove has been calling in virtually every Republican on the Senate committee as well as the leadership in Congress. The sources said Mr. Rove's message has been that a vote against Mr. Bush would destroy GOP prospects in congressional elections.

"He's [Rove] lining them up one by one," another congressional source said.

Mr. Rove is leading the White House campaign to help the GOP in November's congressional elections. The sources said the White House has offered to help loyalists with money and free publicity, such as appearances and photo-ops with the president.

Those deemed disloyal to Mr. Rove would appear on his blacklist. The sources said dozens of GOP members in the House and Senate are on that list.

So far, only a handful of GOP senators have questioned Mr. Rove's tactics.

Some have raised doubts about Mr. Rove's strategy of painting the Democrats, who have opposed unwarranted surveillance, as being dismissive of the threat posed by al Qaeda terrorists.

"Well, I didn't like what Mr. Rove said, because it frames terrorism and the issue of terrorism and everything that goes with it, whether it's the renewal of the Patriot Act or the NSA wiretapping, in a political context," said Sen. Chuck Hagel, Nebraska Republican.



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davidmc

Which begs the question-"Should he (Dubya') resign instead and spare the country the embarrassment or drag the country through avoidable Congressional proceedings the end result being Bush having to pay large civil penalties & tarnish the offiice of the Presidency, he can be brought to court after impeachment for the penalties part. I just wish he would have the dignity and decorum to resign & take Dick w/ him.

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Hypnospin

i wholeheartedly concur, if the measure of a man is responsibility for his own actions, and accountabilty for the consequences of those same actions, then who here can say with conviction bush measures up to the standards of integrity expected of the office he holds?

and please, anyone who would be lame enuff to consider tired comparison to clinton's doings in office as being valid in this here and now, spare us now or risk, at best, losing all credibilty...

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davidmc

Agreed, it takes a man to admit his mistakes & yes, the Clinton matter (extramarital affair) pales in comparison to Bush's trampling of the Constitution

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George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Hypnospin

yeah, those were the "doings" i meant, should have been more specific, as i do not mean to imply i was in agreement with all clinton policies and actions, far from it.

-remember the primary bush campaign promise, appealing to the high moraled middle america vote, no nookie in the oval office.

this perhaps, is the one he kept, but i don't wanna think about, don't wanna know...

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Wurm

I am fully convinced that these depraved thugs will in no way admit to their treason, malfeasance, and larceny - ever. They've stuck to their lies throughout; meanwhile, we're still finding out - with the recent revelations of domestic spying - that they're limited only by their criminal imaginations.

It's anyone's guess as to what other crimes they've committed since Nov. 2000.

The truly abominable thing is that they're gotten away with so much thus far.

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

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darkboong

The point is : They have what they want, power, they really don't give a toss about truth/justice etc. They won't give a toss until they feel that their power is threatened in some way. Their response will most likely be swift, unprincipled and terminal. From where I'm standing the only way they will be stopped is with a bullet between the eyes.

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davidmc

This is'nt a company where one can "cook the books" & leave once it falls. Although many of the Rethugs are wealthy enough so that they could just immigrate to other countries once this one is destroyed due to thier (self) enrichment programs & utter contempt for the institutions which they occupy

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George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Wurm

...as Sen. Paul Wellstone found out from being killed in the plane crash, and Sens. Daschle and Leahy were shown with the anthrax letters.

Wellstone

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

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davidmc

some tidbits to ponder

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wolfix

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davidmc

just checking in.

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Hypnospin

there have always been those who, prior to any significant development and advancement of humanitarian, finacial, and social justice in the us, held to the belief those things
(such as)

revolution
independence
end of slavery
suffrage
unionism
social security
end of mccarthyism
end of segregation
civil rights
miranda rights
conscientious objector status
protesters marching in the streets
outta vietnam
nixon resignation
womens liberation
acceptance of gays in certain churches
certain "victimless crimes" decriminalized
equal oppurtunity employment
worker's compensation
end of bogus cold war obsession
dawn of non proliferation treaties
occupational safety and health legislation
dawn of human rights movement, pres carter
states eliminating death penalty
no fault auto insurance
ollie north and company flame out
womens' right to choose
seperation of church and state in public schools
employment family leave act passed
enviromentalists halting ecologicaly damaging developments
fines to corporations violating pollution regulations
national deficit eliminated
a president visits native american reservation
lowered unemployment and welfare simultaneously
stock market exceeding previous records without crashing
presidential effort to develop national health care
record land aquisitions for national park system
tobacco and fast food companies sued successfuly
states rights asserted
gay marriage recognized
present administration members flee to avoid complications of accountability



"ain't gonna happen"
in each case there were those who would state:
ain't gonna happen


just goes to show, even in the face of progress,
there will always be naysayers.

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"The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present...As our case is new, so must we think anew and act anew"
Abraham Lincoln, in his address to congress dec. 1st, 1861

Wurm

Guess we'll just have to wait & see, ay?

And what's Libby's new defense for this week? Why, the old "I forgot" Hail Mary pass, of course. LAFF!! Now he's hired a memory expert to fabricate excuses for him, but the judge has said he won't allow this trial to be a contest between which side has the most convincing experts.

He'll be tried on the evidence/merits, and he'll lose - hopefully dragging down some of the other scumbags with him.

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.