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Published on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 by the Associated Press
Televangelist Robertson Calls for Assassination of Venezuelan President
VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson suggested on-air that American operatives assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to stop his country from becoming "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism." PREACHING ASSASSINATION Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson, seen here in February 2005, urged the United States to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who is a 'dangerous enemy,' Roberts told watchers of his 'The 700 Club' television show. (AFP/Getty Images/File) "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said Monday on the Christian Broadcast Network's "The 700 Club." "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." Robertson, 75, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, accused the United States of failing to act when Chavez was briefly overthrown in 2002. Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening. Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States. The CIA estimates that U.S. markets absorb almost 59 percent of Venezuela's total exports. Venezuela's government has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are conspiring against Chavez. Robertson has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." © 2005 Associated Press
Hey Pat old boy, how much do you want to bet there's a hell of a lot more people in the U.S. that would rather see Bush and his cronies assassinated than even know who Chavez is??
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Nice to see he operates from a standpoint of total logic and rationalism... Quote:
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Pat Robertson represents a large portion of the Bible banging population.
He is no better or worse than the Taliban.
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Exactly correct. However, at least the various turrrrrist organizations don't equivocate on their goal of bringing down the U.S. Robertson's schtick is a bit more insidious.
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Hey you guys! You stop it! Pastor Robertson is a GOOD MAN! I fully back whatever decisions he makes. . . . . .in fact. . . . . . . .shoot, I think I'll just do what he said, . . . . . . . . I'll be back in a few weeks.......
Uh, hold on. . . . . . . The fall semester is starting tonight. I'd better do that instead. Boy, you're one lucky fella, President Chavez! |
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**chirp..chirp** Last edited by Colorado Ryder : 24-08.-2005 at 10:38 PM. |
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We could take up Robertson's idea especially since Iraq is going so well
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These anti-communist U.S. bible-bashers amuse me. They're willing to blindly accept every chapter and verse of the bible yet they fear the communists because the latter banned religion and predicted the collapse of capitalism. They also forget it was the communists who did away with the Hitler regime and stamped out fascism in Europe.
The fall of American capitalism was predicted by Russian Marxist thinkers as far back as the thirties and it's finally being proved true as greed drives the U.S. into ever murkier waters. The thing is what drives the U.S. these days is simply greed and economics (with no long term strategic thinking). The Iraq mess will more than likely bankrupt the country since the short term gain of an oil supply carries a far greater long term price. Incidentally the Chinese don't intend to abandon communism and the plan has always been to modify it. Quote:
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To bad those same Russian Marxists couldn't see their own downfall. |
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Even communist/socialist countries can be screwed up by naive political leaders. The problem is Gorbachev could have reformed communism but he failed to do this so he was displaced by Yeltsin - an opportunist oligarch. And under Yeltsin the Russian economy shrank to a fraction of its pre-perestroika level.
Plus, the biggest mistake the Russians made had to do with the way they treated their allies, causing many to willingly abandon the USSR structure (a lesson here for the U.S.?) But to get back to the point, communist theologians such as Lenin and Trotsky understood that capitalism inevitably engineers its own downfall. It was greed that essentially led Bush to invade Iraq not any logical plan to establish security in the region. It was the same greed that also brought about the planned invasion of Cuba and possibly further plans to interfere in Venezuela. But this greed has led to strong anti-U.S. feeling throughout South America so the quick-fix target of securing oil has long term negative implications. The problem is Bush has no real strategic, thought-out plan for running his country. He's dictated to by the short term requirements of the economy which he tries to fix by short term military solutions, deepening his unpopularity around the globe. Meantime, the Chinese do have a plan. Bush's claim that the U.S. is the world's fastest growing economy is a bunch of propaganda since China is now growing far faster. Neither do the Chinese have any problems with Islamic terror groups as they never let them in the country in the first place and place strict limits on religious expression. Quote:
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The Soviet economy was doomed from the beginning. Communism goes against the very nature of man. Sure communism sounds good but it will never work. Yes the Chinese do have a plan. Keep their totalitarian government but move the economy over to capitalism. |
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Communism was probably borrowed from the Greeks who used it with some success in Sparta. Sparta was a neo-communist society.
Communism has to do with the idea of a state being run along the lines of logic as opposed to greed. There is no proof that American style capitalism is any better than alternative approaches or that such a capitalist structure will survive. The signs are that capitalism is on the wane and in crisis. Quote:
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There were various reasons why communism failed in Russia. Firstly, it was too harsh and dogmatic. People weren't allowed to own private property and there wasn't sufficient motivation for people to work since wages were set at fixed rates. So, at the end of the day, the average Russian, Bulgarian or Hungarian wanted more material comforts.
I think Gorbachev should have reformed all of that gradually. The Chinese took a fresh approach and said it was O.K. for people in communist societies to work hard and get rich. In fact, there's a lot to be said for this idea of allowing capitalism to develop within a state controlled framework. The Chinese seem quite happy with the way China is going these days. Quote:
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Greed? Is it greed to want a better life? Hmmmm......communism......all men get an same equal share. Everyone is the same. No chance to become rich. No chance to move up. The guy that works harder than the rest is screwed under communism. He gets the same as everyone else. Communism goes against basic human instinct to want to better themselves. Seems "American" style capitalism has worked quite well for over 200 years now. Exactly what signs are there that capitalism is doomed? Are the same ones the Marxists stated in the 30's? Wow, they said capitalism is doomed and its still going strong some 70-80 years later. |
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