heartrate went up watts went down?

20-03.-2005, 04:34 AM	#1
Robert West Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 33	heartrate went up watts went down? I had some sort of stomach virus that kept me off my bike for close to 15 day's. So I started back at building my base. For me, this means 2 hours spent on the trainer on my hard days ( Tues,Thurs,Sat,Sun) Monday's are my day's off and Wednesdays and Fridays are spent just spinning light gears for an hour. On my 2hr days, after warming up I do a 20 minute test effort. For this test I keep my cadence around 90 rpm and I keep my heart rate below 145bpm. I chart this effort every time I do it. From this I see that my watts have been going up steadily. However today (Saturday) I did the same effort And I found my heart rate would go up out of my desired range and the watts were much lower than what I'm accustomed to seeing. As a result of what I was seeing I cut the workout short to 45 minutes, thinking I would be better served taking some rest time even though I feel rested. I'm try to figure out what caused this disturbance. The only thing I can think of is that I had a cup of coffee a 1/2 hour prior to the workout but it could be anything. Has anyone incurred this problem? as I'm hoping to gain some insight so I can avoid the problem.

23-03.-2005, 07:51 PM

BlueIcarus

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Re: heartrate went up watts went down?

I will train as normal and if the same week I see the same thing, I'll take the week off, recover, and start again. Not an expert, but all this means is simply you were not recovered!!
How can you stay in your trainer for 2 hours!!? Tell us your secret!

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Originally Posted by Robert West

I had some sort of stomach virus that kept me off my bike for close to 15 day's. So I started back at building my base. For me, this means 2 hours spent on the trainer on my hard days ( Tues,Thurs,Sat,Sun) Monday's are my day's off and Wednesdays and Fridays are spent just spinning light gears for an hour. On my 2hr days, after warming up I do a 20 minute test effort. For this test I keep my cadence around 90 rpm and I keep my heart rate below 145bpm. I chart this effort every time I do it. From this I see that my watts have been going up steadily. However today (Saturday) I did the same effort And I found my heart rate would go up out of my desired range and the watts were much lower than what I'm accustomed to seeing. As a result of what I was seeing I cut the workout short to 45 minutes, thinking I would be better served taking some rest time even though I feel rested. I'm try to figure out what caused this disturbance. The only thing I can think of is that I had a cup of coffee a 1/2 hour prior to the workout but it could be anything. Has anyone incurred this problem? as I'm hoping to gain some insight so I can avoid the problem.

24-03.-2005, 04:11 AM	#3
Robert West Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 33	Re: heartrate went up watts went down? How can you stay in your trainer for 2 hours!!? Tell us your secret! [/QUOTE] Piece of cake to stay on the trainer for 2 or more hours. I find if I stay structured, by this I'll pin my watts at a predetermined training zone and hold it but I play around with gear selections and hand position and standing/sitting positions. I try to make the effort vary but still target the same intensity, kinda mimic what you may encounter on the road. I also use/recommend spinerval tapes as the time flies by. If you haven't used them you might be amazed. For base work I'll use one of the aero base workouts, the whole workout is over an hour long. You also can easily increase your weekly work load with them, as the workout are set up with intervals of 20 minutes 15, 10 and 5 minutes efforts. For example, once you complete the workout, all you have to do is go to the DVD menu and select set selection, then go to the 5 minute set and do that extra 5 minutes for that week. The following week go to the 10 minute effort after your workout. before you know it your doing the workout twice. Anyway it's a great tool that will help pass the time and it's structured so you can pick and choose what DVD you need to use at a specific time of year. If that doesn't help then maybe I'm just abnormal. Hope this helps. Oh ya thx for the advice.

10-04.-2005, 07:39 AM	#4
fabiosav Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 164	Re: heartrate went up watts went down? This is such an easy time of year to over train, esp with the bug you had: from the post I think it must have been BAD to keep you off for this long, Better one day off too long then one too soon: you'll miss three later). I agree on the Spinervals. It's never great, but...

15-04.-2005, 02:18 AM

Smartt/RST

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Re: heartrate went up watts went down?

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Your situation illustrates why it is better to test performance itself rather than a physiologic response to performance. There are several factors effecting the HR response to exercise (very high on that list is caffeine intake), all of which need to be carefully controlled to make your test reliable and repeatable. However, even under strickly controlled conditions, a single "test" is not cause for changing your program, especially if other indicators (such as RPE) suggest that you are feeling fine.

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15-04.-2005, 03:13 AM	#6
Woofer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 594	Re: heartrate went up watts went down? A good read if you are still thinking about using your heart rate to monitor performance while using a power meter. http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pdf/power_v1.pdf

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