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Old 12-01.-2005, 10:54 AM   #1
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Default Merkins to release British (uncharged) Guantanemo detainees.

The Merkins are releasing the only 4 remaining British detainees from Cuba.
None of these men have been charged despite being in Merkin custody since
2002.

Looks like Bush is trying to assist Bliar in his (Bliars) re-election campaign.
(for you Merkins, the Brits go to the election polls in Spring 2005 - OK, back to watching Oprah/Dr Phil, or some suchlike garbage).



Profiles: the British Guantánamo detainees

The four Britons being released from Guantánamo Bay

Adam Jay
Tuesday January 11, 2005

Feroz Abbasi
Mr Abbasi, aged 24, moved to Britain from his native Uganda at the age of eight, settling in Croydon, south London.

Having dropped out of his computer studies course in 1999, he began attending his local mosque before moving his allegiance to the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, run by the radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri. He is alleged to have received bed and board at the mosque in return for security duties.

Mr Abbasi's mother last saw him in December 2000, when he told her he was leaving for Afghanistan. The US government alleges he was trained at an al-Qaida camp in Afghanistan to which Mr Hamza referred recruits.

In December 2001, Mr Abbasi was arrested in Kunduz, north Afghanistan, by US forces. The following month, he became one of the first suspects to be flown to Guantánamo Bay A US military forensic scientist reportedly diagnosed him as suffering from depression.

Moazzam Begg

Born in the UK, the 36-year-old law student, language teacher and Islamic bookshop owner left Sparkbrook, Birmingham in June 2001 and moved his young family to Afghanistan.

In December that year, after the overthrow of the Taliban regime, he again relocated, this time to Islamabad, where he was arrested by Pakistani agents the following February, allegedly having been bundled into the back of a car.

US authorities claimed that, at the time Mr Begg left Afghanistan, many al-Qaida fighters were fleeing the country to regroup. They also claimed to have found his name on a money transfer document recovered from an al-Qaida camp. His family say he was the victim of mistaken identity.



Despite a pending habeas corpus petition, Mr Begg was handed over to the US by Pakistani agents. US officials held him at Bagram airbase, in Afghanistan, for a year before transferring him to Guantánamo Bay in February 2003.

In a letter written last October, Mr Begg alleged that, during his time at Bagram, he had seen US soldiers kill two fellow detainees, and had been subjected to "pernicious threats of torture, actual vindictive torture and death threats - amongst other coercively employed interrogation techniques".

He is yet to see his fourth child, who was born after his arrest.

Richard Belmar

The 25-year-old-Londoner, who is a convert to Islam, was last seen by his family in June 2001, when he said he was travelling to Pakistan to study.

Mr Belmar, a former post office worker, then phoned relatives to say he enjoyed the culture and was extending his stay. In October 2002, they received a letter saying he had been taken into custody in February after being found with an expired visa. Two months later, they received a phone call from the foreign office, saying that Mr Belmar had been transferred to Guantánamo Bay.

Martin Mubanga

Mr Mubangda, a 30-year old, has dual British and Zambian nationality, having come with his family to the UK from Africa in the 70s.

The former motorcycle courier from Wembley, north London, was arrested in Zambia in March 2002, having previously spent time studying Islam in Afghanistan. Local agents handed him over to the US authorities, who transferred him to Guantánamo Bay.

In July 2004, Mr Mubanga made two specific allegations of ill treatment by the Americans during an hour-long visit from a foreign office official, although the UK government has refused to provide details, citing the Data Protection Act.

Mr Mubanga added that he had lost 20kg in weight during his incarceration, and his family say letters he has written home have also contained coded references to abuse in patois and cockney.
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The Merkins are releasing the only 4 remaining British detainees from Cuba.
None of these men have been charged despite being in Merkin custody since
2002.

Looks like Bush is trying to assist Bliar in his (Bliars) re-election campaign.
(for you Merkins, the Brits go to the election polls in Spring 2005 - OK, back to watching Oprah/Dr Phil, or some suchlike garbage).



Profiles: the British Guantánamo detainees

The four Britons being released from Guantánamo Bay

Adam Jay
Tuesday January 11, 2005

Feroz Abbasi
Mr Abbasi, aged 24, moved to Britain from his native Uganda at the age of eight, settling in Croydon, south London.

Having dropped out of his computer studies course in 1999, he began attending his local mosque before moving his allegiance to the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, run by the radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri. He is alleged to have received bed and board at the mosque in return for security duties.

Mr Abbasi's mother last saw him in December 2000, when he told her he was leaving for Afghanistan. The US government alleges he was trained at an al-Qaida camp in Afghanistan to which Mr Hamza referred recruits.

In December 2001, Mr Abbasi was arrested in Kunduz, north Afghanistan, by US forces. The following month, he became one of the first suspects to be flown to Guantánamo Bay A US military forensic scientist reportedly diagnosed him as suffering from depression.

Moazzam Begg

Born in the UK, the 36-year-old law student, language teacher and Islamic bookshop owner left Sparkbrook, Birmingham in June 2001 and moved his young family to Afghanistan.

In December that year, after the overthrow of the Taliban regime, he again relocated, this time to Islamabad, where he was arrested by Pakistani agents the following February, allegedly having been bundled into the back of a car.

US authorities claimed that, at the time Mr Begg left Afghanistan, many al-Qaida fighters were fleeing the country to regroup. They also claimed to have found his name on a money transfer document recovered from an al-Qaida camp. His family say he was the victim of mistaken identity.



Despite a pending habeas corpus petition, Mr Begg was handed over to the US by Pakistani agents. US officials held him at Bagram airbase, in Afghanistan, for a year before transferring him to Guantánamo Bay in February 2003.

In a letter written last October, Mr Begg alleged that, during his time at Bagram, he had seen US soldiers kill two fellow detainees, and had been subjected to "pernicious threats of torture, actual vindictive torture and death threats - amongst other coercively employed interrogation techniques".

He is yet to see his fourth child, who was born after his arrest.

Richard Belmar

The 25-year-old-Londoner, who is a convert to Islam, was last seen by his family in June 2001, when he said he was travelling to Pakistan to study.

Mr Belmar, a former post office worker, then phoned relatives to say he enjoyed the culture and was extending his stay. In October 2002, they received a letter saying he had been taken into custody in February after being found with an expired visa. Two months later, they received a phone call from the foreign office, saying that Mr Belmar had been transferred to Guantánamo Bay.

Martin Mubanga

Mr Mubangda, a 30-year old, has dual British and Zambian nationality, having come with his family to the UK from Africa in the 70s.

The former motorcycle courier from Wembley, north London, was arrested in Zambia in March 2002, having previously spent time studying Islam in Afghanistan. Local agents handed him over to the US authorities, who transferred him to Guantánamo Bay.

In July 2004, Mr Mubanga made two specific allegations of ill treatment by the Americans during an hour-long visit from a foreign office official, although the UK government has refused to provide details, citing the Data Protection Act.

Mr Mubanga added that he had lost 20kg in weight during his incarceration, and his family say letters he has written home have also contained coded references to abuse in patois and cockney.

Well done us lot, eventually Blair has said to Bushwhacker charge or release, otherwise we're not playing ball. Which just goes to prove that Bush, just like Hitler, and many others has a 175million brain deads in captivity. Who's in the Cuckoos Nest?
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Well done us lot, eventually Blair has said to Bushwhacker charge or release, otherwise we're not playing ball. Which just goes to prove that Bush, just like Hitler, and many others has a 175million brain deads in captivity. Who's in the Cuckoos Nest?


G'day all, I'm sure more than a few, flew over the cockoo's nest, it's just that G.W. got hatched there, along with Rummy and all the other paranoids. It's a typical load of Merkain bullshit, and their all afraid of their own shadow's.

They are just about to release "Mundo Habib" who was in the wrong place at the wrong time? He got sent to Egypt and received the old torture trick at the behest of the Merkains and the pricks denied it, saying they knew nothing? Sgt Schultz?

Now, our own weak knee'd bloody government is saying, he will be kept under close scrutiny, when he get back into Australia.

Both John Howard (G.W.'s Bum Boy) and (Phillip Ruddock the attorney general and John Howard's Bum Boy) say they have nothing to apologise to Mr Habib for, for his detention over the last three years.

I think it's a bloody disgrace and these bastards should be made to pay big time, let's hope the old "Karhma" unloads a parcel on all of them.

Keep the wheels in motion, and don't look back, unless it's to see who you dropped on the last climb? TBC

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The Mekins couldnt charge them because they were only suspects. There was no actual evidence involved at any point in thier ordeal. The Geneva convention wasnt adhered to and systematic torture and abuse was reported.

When they come back to blighty they will probaly be re-arrested but their story of massive human rights abuses will eventually be heard...

you see Merkins think that they are the only free nation in the world and everyone else is somehow repressed by thier government, and while this may be true of some countries, it certainly isnt true of Great Britian.

thier story will be heard eventually....and Bush will be held to account as a war criminal...
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The Mekins couldnt charge them because they were only suspects. There was no actual evidence involved at any point in thier ordeal. The Geneva convention wasnt adhered to and systematic torture and abuse was reported.

When they come back to blighty they will probaly be re-arrested but their story of massive human rights abuses will eventually be heard...

you see Merkins think that they are the only free nation in the world and everyone else is somehow repressed by thier government, and while this may be true of some countries, it certainly isnt true of Great Britian.

thier story will be heard eventually....and Bush will be held to account as a war criminal...


G'day again, I agree MountainPro, not only "Bush" but "Howard" and "Blair" should all be charged with war crimes they were all complicit in this action. And there was absolutelt no good reason to attack a soveriegn country against the wishes of the United Nations. I know the blind will jump up and say "Madman Hussien" was a tirant, and he was oppressing his people, but so are a lot of others around the world, however you don't see Bush and his cronies doing anything about them? I wonder why?

Without going down the same track again and again, we all know the reason why it was done, and shame on the Merkain's, letting themselves be a part of it. Not having the guts, to stand up and say "NO" to Bush, in the first place.

Then re-electing the bastard, after they knew what he and his cronies had done? I guess there's a big market for white canes and seeing eye dogs, I'll make bloody fortune selling them to the septics.

Unfortunately at the end of his term in the Whitehouse he will retire to his property and feel justified that he completed the work his daddy couldn't do. He will live in the lap of luxury for the rest of his days, and all paid for by lives of his fellow Merkain's and the black gold, Texas Tea?

And I thought "Jed Clampit" was just a fictitious character, it would appear he is alive and well and living in the land of the gullible?

What "BULLSHIT" I'm glad I'm not one of 'em? TBC
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Sorry but what exactly does your cryptic remark above have anything to do with people being incarcerated, with no charge being proferred against them ?
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Yep, read it, seems OK to me, as does my driving licence, gun licence, and fishing licence. What are you writing about? Can we be held without trial in America?
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The Mekins couldnt charge them because they were only suspects. There was no actual evidence involved at any point in thier ordeal. The Geneva convention wasnt adhered to and systematic torture and abuse was reported.

When they come back to blighty they will probaly be re-arrested but their story of massive human rights abuses will eventually be heard...

you see Merkins think that they are the only free nation in the world and everyone else is somehow repressed by thier government, and while this may be true of some countries, it certainly isnt true of Great Britian.

thier story will be heard eventually....and Bush will be held to account as a war criminal...


When the other illegally held people were released form Guantanemo, they were arrested on return to England and brought to Paddington Green.
But the British Police released them within hours - the British police were just
making a point, knowing that these guys were not involved.
Just to keep the Merkins on side - so to speak.

Their accounts of their captivity were interesting - Merkin torture tactics were highlighted and are now pursuant to a legal compenation cases in the USA courts.

US taxpayer will probably have to pay out compensation to them.
Kinda ironic, ain't it ?
They lock them up - torture them - release them - and now the US is being sued and will be forced to re-compense them !

And what has all this illegal detention garnered ?
What information did that torture uncover ?
Nothing.
BinLaden and Co are still at large !




Amazing how inept Bush & Co really are.
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When the other illegally held people were released form Guantanemo, they were arrested on return to England and brought to Paddington Green.
But the British Police released them within hours -


US taxpayer will probably have to pay out compensation to them.
Kinda ironic, ain't it ?


Amazing how inept Bush & Co really are.
Well, it would really be stupid of anyone to lock someone up for doing nothing...Yanks are just fucked in the brain...i imagine the detainees will be released soon after arriving home as you say becuase unlike in cloud cukoo land (merkia) a man is innocent until proved guilty here.

I would love to see the dumb Merkin taxpayer dig even deeper into the war fund to compensate the British....even just for the gesture of saying....'aahhh geee, i guess we were wrong again...duuhhh'

as for Bush and co being inept...no Bin Laden and no weapons...daft fuckers. The mastermind of 9/11 walks free and were are supposed to believe this is a victory?

fear and intimidation has proven to work in the US for years but with this man free the yanks really should be (and are) shitting thier shorts....
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Well, it would really be stupid of anyone to lock someone up for doing nothing...Yanks are just fucked in the brain...i imagine the detainees will be released soon after arriving home as you say becuase unlike in cloud cukoo land (merkia) a man is innocent until proved guilty here.

I would love to see the dumb Merkin taxpayer dig even deeper into the war fund to compensate the British....even just for the gesture of saying....'aahhh geee, i guess we were wrong again...duuhhh'

as for Bush and co being inept...no Bin Laden and no weapons...daft fuckers. The mastermind of 9/11 walks free and were are supposed to believe this is a victory?

fear and intimidation has proven to work in the US for years but with this man free the yanks really should be (and are) shitting thier shorts....



Gotta wonder just what Guantanemo was all about.
What information have they been able to divine.

The torture hasn't thrown up anything close to catching the culprits for 9/11.
Four years ago now.
Amazing really.
Four years and those boys are still roaming round.

Yeah, various bills will start hitting the door mat of Pennsylvania Avenue.

War reparations for Afghanistan.
War reparations for Iraq.
Settlements for the torture cases in Quantanemo.
$9 billion a month it takes to fund the war in Iraq.

Don't forget though, the Chimp said that he won't be raising taxes !
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Hey Wanker get off the net and have a go at the wife. Me thinks she is neglected. Or would you rather have a go at Fred? He might be wearing that black dress.


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Oh there are many more to come. Remember to cherish our moments together. Because this will be the most your ass has ever been reamed. Your time of redemption has arrived. It is quite fun to see you wondering who has launched this massive attack upon you. You must have made many enemies to be suspicious of so many.


Indeed, Graner.

Self aggrandisement on your part though.

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You're are baffles about who this is. Willie thinks he knows who I am. DavidMC thinks he knows. Wonder if Fred thinks. Ain't it stinkers when you've been fucked?


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This sentance doesn't make sense, either in meaning or grammatically.
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Wouldn't that describe most of your post? I guess baffles and stinkers would be over your head. I expected to much from an Oiyrish man.


As I said earlier, we communicate in English here.

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Wouldn't that describe most of your post? I guess baffles and stinkers would be over your head. I expected to much from an Oiyrish man.


This should read "I expect too much........", Graner.
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