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Re: Bars & Stems

 
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Old 14-12.-2004, 06:16 PM   #1
Simon Brooke
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in message <igp.1h88ry@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>, igp
('igp.1h88ry@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com') wrote:

>
> Hi All,
> I'm in the process of changing my flat bar road bike into a drop bar
> bike and need a little advice. I've recently bought a used set of
> shimano sora combined shifters for the job and would like to change
> them over myself. A few questions that I need answered before I buy
> anything else are
>
> 1. Existing bars are 25.4mm must the new drops be exaxtly 25.4mm.


Err... no. Drop bars are a different standard diameter to straight bars,
for some arcane reason. I think the thick bit in the centre where the
stem grips is the same, but to be honest I'm not really sure of this.
You may need to use a shim.

> 2. Existing stem is 90mm from centre of riser to centre of bars is
> this an appropriate length for drop bars.


Depends how big you are. However, if it works with straights, it's
likely to be there or thereabouts with drops. You _might_ need a
shorter one.

> 3. Bar width Is there an easy way to determine correct width.


The metric usually given is 'the width of your shoulders'. Wider may be
better if you do a lot of climbing.

> 4. What type of bar tape is recommended.


I like leather best but it's hard to come by these days. Cork is good.

> 5. I'm pressuming that I will need new cables.


Probably.

> Any other advice would also be much appreciated


If anyone else give you different advice from the above, take it. I'm
still half asleep.

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Old 14-12.-2004, 10:42 PM   #2
Pete Biggs
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Simon Brooke wrote:

>> 1. Existing bars are 25.4mm must the new drops be exaxtly 25.4mm.

>
> Err... no. Drop bars are a different standard diameter to straight
> bars, for some arcane reason. I think the thick bit in the centre
> where the stem grips is the same, but to be honest I'm not really
> sure of this.


They used to be the same, and some cheap or unusual drop bars are still
25.4 mm at the central collar/bulge, but most drops available in the UK
are at least 25.8 now. Most 3T and ITM non-"oversized" are 25.8, Cinelli,
Deda and most others are 26.0. The oversize ones are much larger still
and definitely need a matching stem.

~PB


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Old 15-12.-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
John Tomlinson
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:42:04 -0000, "Pete Biggs"
<pwrinkledgrape{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote:

>Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>>> 1. Existing bars are 25.4mm must the new drops be exaxtly 25.4mm.

>>
>> Err... no. Drop bars are a different standard diameter to straight
>> bars, for some arcane reason. I think the thick bit in the centre
>> where the stem grips is the same, but to be honest I'm not really
>> sure of this.

>
>They used to be the same, and some cheap or unusual drop bars are still
>25.4 mm at the central collar/bulge, but most drops available in the UK
>are at least 25.8 now. Most 3T and ITM non-"oversized" are 25.8,



I may be wrong but I think the bog standard ITM Europas come as
25.4mm[1]. Having said this, when I swapped over straight bars for
drops I went for the Ahead adapter option and used a front loading
Ahead stem (25.4) and a lovely pair of 3T Formas (25.8). This settup
lasted me well for a couple of years

I go for narrower bars my self (42cm centre - centre)

JT
[1] I have just looked a few online suppliers and non had the
measurement specified :-(

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