Firearms & Glocks while riding?

AtlantisArms

Researching carrying firearms while riding. I hear that several people are carrying near known Mountain Lion attack sites.

Anyone here carry?

Anyone have any discharge issues while riding? esp. considering the GLOCK safety system. I've never heard of any accidental discharge issues riding; however, I'm new to the thought.

I'll be moving to the LA area (Rancho Santa Margarita) soon and have just wondered what's going on... esp. since I am both a rider and arms dealer. I never thought about carrying while riding. AZ doen't ahve the mtn lions. Just some coyotes and Javelina. And I'm in Phx, so I see no real reason to carry in the valley. But some people do carry. SO, i'm curious and would like to have a resource of knowledge on the issue.

Any experiences?

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createdtodestry

do you think a mt. lion could catch up to ya? if i had one chasing me i dont think it would have a chance. it seems that a gun wouldnt help much against a mt. lion, because what i hear they suprise attack from above or behind.

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oscar2

Currently I don't carry, personally I think it might solve some of the crime problems on multi-use trails, but what do you do about persperation? Guaranteed to rust most guns!

AtlantisArms

But that's why we clean them often! If I were to carry, I could do my Glock 23, or I could pick up a Kel-Tec. KelTec would be lighter. Much lighter since it is mostly plastic. A lot of officers carry them at thier ankle or pocket. I've even heard that some normal socks can hold them!

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createdtodestry

well if you could always get a stainless gun, but it would be expensive. a gun big enough to quickly kill a mt. lion though is gona weigh alot. i dont think a .22 would kill it befor it attacked you. a 9mm might do it, if its a head shot. still though i wouldnt carry a gun while riding. it would get in the way, and i would be worried it would discharge if i fell or something. plus im not sure how legal it is, especially if its loaded. better check with the police about that one.

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occlimber

I've been thinking about that a lot lately as well. I'm sure you know, gun laws here suck.

Weisse Luft

Mountain lions kill by bites to the skull or neck. If you wear your brain bucket, its possible you will escape the first few bites. If you can get your pistol, it would improve your chances for survival. A .22 to the cat's chest would make a BIG difference. And a .380 from a KelTec P3AT would definitely do the trick.

Always carry in a holster that completely covers the trigger and you should be safe. The striker in a Glock will not travel unless the initial trigger take-up has been pulled. Other firearms are similar.

lumpy

When a Mtn. lion attacks, it'll probably be a leap from the brush onto your back. You'll never see it coming. He'll knock you off your bike and crush your neck.

If you're so worried about it, find a different place to ride.

Azulene

Fire arms and Mt. Lions. I have to wonder how fast on the draw you would have to be to shot a running Mt. Lion, while ridding your bike. I have some experience with handguns as an ex sheriff officer. I would have never been fast enough to shot an attacking Mt. Lion. A man with a knife 20 feet away can stab you before you can pull your weapon (it has been proven many times), so you think your hand gun will protect you NO.
It is illegal to carry a concealed handgun with out a concealed carry permit, as I understand is hard to get one in California. Also you are responsible for every bullet you fire, if one of your bullets hits a bystander you in deep trouble. When an officer fires his gun he aims to hit critical mass (heart/lungs) to stop the aggressor. The critical mass of a Mt. Lion is very narrow and almost impossible to hit if the Lion is on the run. As far as guns the best would be a 12gauge shotgun. A 22-caliber handgun or Kel Tex .380 I don’t believe would do the trick. A 40SW, 45ACPor 10mm would be a better choice. The Kel Tex is not a very accurate gun; the Lion would have to be on you to hit him (I use to own one).

Even though I own a handgun and have a concealed carry permit I would never carry while riding. If my route were so dangerous I would find another route. Your best self-defense is your own mind.

cheapie

you used to own a mountain lion? sweet!

Azulene

[QUOTE=cheapie]you used to own a mountain lion? sweet! [/QUOT
No Kel Te Hon

MountainPro

I never used to carry a weapon to attack the wildlife but after a particularly nasty incident with a mole while riding one afternoon, i always carry a big knife, a big gun and a high intensity ocean flare...just incase..

dont get many lions in the Scottish Highlands but watch out for the old wild Scottish haggis. Especially during the mating season. Bloody vicious.

Snuffleupagus

hahah, WTF??

MountainPro

I am serious..3 feet high and 2 feet wide - 100lbs of pure feathers, sharp teeth and claws..

nasty little buggers...

you think youve got it tough with mountain lions...youre bloody lucky!