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Old 19-06.-2004, 07:04 AM   #1
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Default Caffeine=Rubbish

It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
performance....

"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting heart rate, blood
pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma triglycerides, blood glucose
or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
University said..


http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/...9-23218,00.html


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Old 19-06.-2004, 10:15 AM   #2
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Unregistered wrote:
> It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> performance....




Try telling that to Alex Watson, in retrospect.



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Old 19-06.-2004, 03:15 PM   #3
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This week. What will the findings be next week? Depends on who is paying for
an opinion I guess.

"Unregistered" <shareware@cracks.am> wrote in message
news:40d3669e$1@news1...
> It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> performance....
>
> "We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting heart rate,

blood
> pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma triglycerides, blood

glucose
> or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
> University said..
>
>
> http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/...9-23218,00.html
>
>



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Old 19-06.-2004, 06:30 PM   #4
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Default Re: Caffeine=Rubbish

Originally posted by Unregistered
>It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
>performance....


Uh.. not exactly.. try reading the whole article:

"In endurance sports, caffeine has been shown to help in low amounts"

-

"Dr Crowe found caffeine could cause tremors, nausea, agitation,
hallucinations and an increase in the time taken to reach peak power."

Hallucinations?!?! What sort of caffeine were they feeding them?! Sounds
like a decaf manufacturer has paid for a study

-

What about the other studies that have shown caffeine to have a
beneficial effect or no effect? This study sounds excessively negative
towards caffeine.

-

If it is so bad, why do sprinters use it to get their heart rates up
before an effort and endurance racers use it to free fat stores for use
in place of valuable glycogen stores?

My advice - read more than this article before dismissing caffeine.

hippy



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Old 19-06.-2004, 06:43 PM   #5
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"hippy" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:yITAc.30389$fT2.24667@fe30.usenetserver.com...
> Originally posted by Unregistered
> >It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> >performance....

>
> Uh.. not exactly.. try reading the whole article:
>
> "In endurance sports, caffeine has been shown to help in low amounts"
>
> -
>
> "Dr Crowe found caffeine could cause tremors, nausea, agitation,
> hallucinations and an increase in the time taken to reach peak power."
>
> Hallucinations?!?! What sort of caffeine were they feeding them?! Sounds
> like a decaf manufacturer has paid for a study
>
> -
>
> What about the other studies that have shown caffeine to have a
> beneficial effect or no effect? This study sounds excessively negative
> towards caffeine.
>
> -
>
> If it is so bad, why do sprinters use it to get their heart rates up
> before an effort and endurance racers use it to free fat stores for use
> in place of valuable glycogen stores?
>
> My advice - read more than this article before dismissing caffeine.
>
> hippy


Gianni Bugno likes his coffee strong and it never slowed him down.

Marty "Short white" Wallace


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Old 20-06.-2004, 07:45 PM   #6
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Unregistered wrote:
> It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> performance....
> "We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting heart rate,
> blood pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma triglycerides,
> blood glucose or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of
> Queensland's James Cook University said..
> http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,9881539-
> http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,9881539- 23218,00.html




bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-)



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Old 20-06.-2004, 08:15 PM   #7
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wrote:
> If it is so bad, why do sprinters use it to get their heart rates up
> before an effort and endurance racers use it to free fat stores for use
> in place of valuable glycogen stores?




The more modern research suggests that this isn't why endurance
athletes use caffeine. The advantages are likely to be to do with
lowering the level of perceived exertion and possibly changes in
muscular chemistry. The main problem is securing a chemically pure form
of caffeine fit for human consumption, as there is some evidence other
compounds in coffee negate the effect (although my experience suggests
it certainly doesn't completely negate the effects). If you want to
find out more about caffeine or any other possible ergogenic aid, I
recommend the AIS website and the supplement fact sheets available in
the sports nutrition section.



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Old 21-06.-2004, 08:30 AM   #8
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ProfTournesol wrote:
> bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-)




Vote 1 - ProfTournesol !!!

<reaches for semi-decent flat-white, inhales aroma and feels semi-ready
to take on another day of workin for 'the man'>



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Old 21-06.-2004, 09:48 AM   #9
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flyingdutch wrote:
>
> ProfTournesol wrote:
> > bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-)

>
> Vote 1 - ProfTournesol !!!
>
> <reaches for semi-decent flat-white, inhales aroma and feels semi-ready
> to take on another day of workin for 'the man'>
>
> --

I submitted a research progress report the other day, it asked for
problems that had delayed me and if solutions had been found. I wrote:
Problem - I wasn't drinking enough coffee to be really productive.
Solution - Our research group has purchased an espresso machine and
grinder. I am back up to several cups per day.

I think my supervisor missed it and passed it up through the chain as
is. Uh oh.

Tam

Oh crap, said nothing about bikes. Um, bikes are good.
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Old 21-06.-2004, 01:30 PM   #10
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Unregistered wrote:
> It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> performance....
> "l




Soooooooooooooo.. that means coffee isn't a racing/training
supplement ;-P

With a thumbs up to Prof T and Flying Dutch.. bring it on



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Old 21-06.-2004, 07:38 PM   #11
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:04:00 +1000, Unregistered wrote:

> It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
> performance....
>
> "We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting heart rate, blood
> pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma triglycerides, blood glucose
> or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
> University said..


Geeze, everyone knows that!

It's the cake and biscuits you have with the
coffee on the break in the middle of your ride
that effects performance.

-kt
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Old 22-06.-2004, 03:21 PM   #12
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have a look at the PDF attachment......

this study shows that caffeine is beneficial

I drink flat coke as a pick-me-up on my long rides 4h+ for a long lasting energy boost on
the way back.
If you ever see a guy with a dark liquid in his 2nd bottle - that's me.

"Unregistered" <shareware@cracks.am> wrote:

>It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't enhance
>performance....
>
>"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting heart rate, blood
>pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma triglycerides, blood glucose
>or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
>University said..
>
>
>http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/...9-23218,00.html
>


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Old 22-06.-2004, 03:21 PM   #13
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Old 22-06.-2004, 10:00 PM   #14
Meeba
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Default Re: Caffeine=Rubbish

re caffine tests (old one) lve heard that drugs like LSD +cocaine and
caffine were administered to spiders to see their effects on web
making.And interestingly enough the coke and LSD spiders carried on with
their perfect web making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a
erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably instant coffee
full of chemicals!)



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Old 22-06.-2004, 10:24 PM   #15
Marty Wallace
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"Meeba" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:94WBc.73539$7Q.56388@fe17.usenetserver.com...
> re caffine tests (old one) lve heard that drugs like LSD +cocaine and
> caffine were administered to spiders to see their effects on web
> making.And interestingly enough the coke and LSD spiders carried on with
> their perfect web making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a
> erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably instant coffee
> full of chemicals!)
>


Hmmm...
Are you implying that we might be better off dropping tabs of Acid rather
than sipping coffee before that Sunday morning ride? A short trip around the
park?

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