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Lance at the TDU?

 
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Old 17-06.-2004, 09:29 AM   #1
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Did anyone see the late news last night? I think it was on 'Chanel
Number 7' (Ch7) and they spoke about Pat Jonker (an aussie and ex
teammate of Lance's) trying to get him to race in the TDU in the future.

Apparently Lance has expressed an interest in this before and with him
likely to be less competitive in the TdF, racing things like the Giro
and tours in other countries is back on the cards.

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Old 17-06.-2004, 11:00 AM   #2
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hippy wrote:
> Did anyone see the late news last night? I think it was on 'Chanel
> Number 7' (Ch7) and they spoke about Pat Jonker (an aussie and ex
> teammate of Lance's) trying to get him to race in the TDU in the future.
> Apparently Lance has expressed an interest in this before and with him
> likely to be less competitive in the TdF, racing things like the Giro
> and tours in other countries is back on the cards.
> hippy
> - now with new Stealth Mode!




Seeing as His team now has a new sponsor taking over after USPS pullout
after this year, it may be likely. Altho he announced 2 days ago that
he will be riding the TdF in 2005 as well (obviously thinking he is
gonna win this year too), so perhaps the 'LA fairwell tour' might be
delayed a tad.

Cannot wait for the TdF. Gonna be a cracker! LA, Ullrich, Simoni, Mayo
(alas no Vinokourov now :-( ), and guys like Cooke, Mcewen, Ogrady,
McGee and Evans all busting out of their skin, its gonna be HUGE

Know a guy in Adelaide who scored a beautiful Colnago given to him by
Tony Rominger in the (i think) first TDU

What's with the 'Stealth Mode'



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Old 17-06.-2004, 11:15 AM   #3
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>Originally posted by flyingdutch Seeing as His team now has a new
>sponsor taking over after >USPS pullout after this year, it may be
>likely. Altho he >announced 2 days ago that he will be riding the TdF
>in 2005 as well (obviously thinking he is gonna win this year too), so
>>perhaps the 'LA fairwell tour' might be delayed a tad.


'Discovery Channel' I think are the new sponsors. They mentioned that on
the news as well.

>Cannot wait for the TdF. Gonna be a cracker!


Yep!

>Cooke, Mcewen, Ogrady, McGee and Evans all busting out of >their skin,
>its gonna be HUGE


Is O'Grady still riding it? He was off last year, I guessed he might not
be wanting to ride it? I don't really follow aussie riders that much..
too much else to watch/do.

>What's with the 'Stealth Mode'


Someone might have had their ears lowered on Saturday...

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Old 17-06.-2004, 11:40 AM   #4
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Speaking of Lance, heard he's a bit not happy about ongoing drug
allegations - apparently a new book is being released and the authors
blatantly accuse him despite repeated negative results. Good luck with
him suing their bums off.
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Old 17-06.-2004, 12:15 PM   #5
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Originally posted by flyingdutch:

> Seeing as His team now has a new sponsor taking over after USPS
> pullout after this year, it may be likely. Altho he announced 2 days
> ago that he will be riding the TdF in 2005 as well


Somehow I can't see an American being the first to win six tours. My
bets are on Jan.

Regards,

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Old 17-06.-2004, 01:30 PM   #6
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>Originally posted by suzyj Somehow I can't see an American being the
>first to win six tours. My bets are on Jan.


My money is on Lance. He's a proven fighter and I think he's hungry for
the record. I know he was struggling a bit last year and anything could
happen, but my money is still on him...

Jan is still too fat isn't he? Mayo could be a threat in those little
hills... he beat Lance in that recent Dauphiné Libéré TT and so did
Hamilton and Sevilla. Cash on Hamilton for another stage win or two..

What about the aussies.. who has predictions for them?

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Old 17-06.-2004, 02:15 PM   #7
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hippy wrote:
> >Originally posted by suzyj Somehow I can't see an American being the
> >first to win six tours. My bets are on Jan.

> My money is on Lance. He's a proven fighter and I think he's hungry for
> the record. I know he was struggling a bit last year and anything could
> happen, but my money is still on him...
> Jan is still too fat isn't he? Mayo could be a threat in those little
> hills... he beat Lance in that recent Dauphiné Libéré TT and so did
> Hamilton and Sevilla. Cash on Hamilton for another stage win or two..
> What about the aussies.. who has predictions for them?
> hippy




My money is:

5/4 LA
6/4 Tyler-what-bone-sticking-out?-Hamilton
7/4 Mayo (call AlpeDeHuez little?)
8/1 Simoni
9/1 Jan-who-ate-all-the-pies?-Ullrich

Pettachi to win every flat stage bar-one and TTs before the hills and
then pullout

Mcewen to regain green and then lose it to Ogrady in the last few stages

2 stagewins to Ozzies

Ogrady-sprintfinish after long breakaway with 5-10 others Mcewen-sprint
finish in first week to deny Pettachi a clean sweep before hills

Second last stage (indivTT) to decide the lot!

Not that im looking forward to it, mind...



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Old 17-06.-2004, 04:00 PM   #8
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In article <zN9Ac.3999$tF1.2135@fe46.usenetserver.com>,
flyingdutch <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:

> 2 stagewins to Ozzies
>
> Ogrady-sprintfinish after long breakaway with 5-10 others Mcewen-sprint
> finish in first week to deny Pettachi a clean sweep before hills


So you're writing off last year's prolog winner in the prolog, even
though he also won the prolog at the Giro this year, and is in superb
form? And you don't think the winner of last year's maillot vert is
going to win a stage?

I think you're selling the boys short...

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Old 17-06.-2004, 04:33 PM   #9
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hippy <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<797Ac.1360$5%6.1327@fe06.usenetserver.com>...
> 'Discovery Channel' I think are the new sponsors. They mentioned that on
> the news as well.


I'm sorry, but has anyone else found this funny..? I'm a Simpson's
fan, and in an episode in which the boys of Springfield venture into
Shelbyville, they split into groups. Bully Nelson is teamed with nerdy
Martin, who says something like "We shall be called Team Discovery
Channel!"...

(distainful silence)

Just thought it was funny, that's all...

Sorry.

If you haven't been following Aussie cyclists in Europe, you may be
surprised to learn that the last week or so has been HUGE. Cadel Evans
won the Tour of Austria overall (and a stage), Robbie McEwan has won
two stages of the Tour de Suiss (still going) and Stuie O'grady won
two stages of the Dauphine Libere and the points jersey. The week
before that Alan Davis won a stage of the Tour of Germany. I for one
am pumped for the TdF.
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Old 17-06.-2004, 05:31 PM   #10
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This is from Lance's web site
LEGAL NOTICE
RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and dismay at the false
allegations made by David Walsh, Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday
Times. The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled 'LA
Confidential', co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published in
France. Extracts from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of
the book's allegations were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times.

Lance Armstrong utterly denies ever
having taken any performance enhancing drugs.

Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to immediately
institute libel proceedings

1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and David Walsh
seeking an injunction and substantial damages

2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the publishers of
'LA Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.

Tamyka Bell wrote:

> Speaking of Lance, heard he's a bit not happy about ongoing drug
> allegations - apparently a new book is being released and the authors
> blatantly accuse him despite repeated negative results. Good luck with
> him suing their bums off.


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Old 17-06.-2004, 07:17 PM   #11
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"flyingdutch" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:zN9Ac.3999$tF1.2135@fe46.usenetserver.com...
>
> My money is:
>
> 5/4 LA
> 6/4 Tyler-what-bone-sticking-out?-Hamilton
> 7/4 Mayo (call AlpeDeHuez little?)
> 8/1 Simoni
> 9/1 Jan-who-ate-all-the-pies?-Ullrich
>
> Pettachi to win every flat stage bar-one and TTs before the hills and
> then pullout
>
> Mcewen to regain green and then lose it to Ogrady in the last few stages
>
> 2 stagewins to Ozzies
>
> Ogrady-sprintfinish after long breakaway with 5-10 others Mcewen-sprint
> finish in first week to deny Pettachi a clean sweep before hills
>
> Second last stage (indivTT) to decide the lot!
>
> Not that im looking forward to it, mind...
>


Time gaps from team time trial to be crucial...perhaps the maximum loss of
time at 2:30 to be a factor.
LA to marshall his team to the front of the cobbled stage and one of the
other favourites to be stuck behind a crash on that stage.
Gilberto Simoni to talk big and do nothing.
Roberto Heras to attack LA but not force a break as Armstrong doesn't like
traitors.
McEwen to whinge about no team support...read Petacchi is faster than him.
Cippolini to whinge about everything, win nothing then crash and leave the
race early.
Petacchi to win Green Jersey.


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Old 17-06.-2004, 07:35 PM   #12
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On 17 Jun 2004 00:33:30 -0700, p_o_y2000@yahoo.com.au (blah) wrote:

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>If you haven't been following Aussie cyclists in Europe, you may be
>surprised to learn that the last week or so has been HUGE. Cadel Evans
>won the Tour of Austria overall (and a stage), Robbie McEwan has won
>two stages of the Tour de Suiss (still going) and Stuie O'grady won
>two stages of the Dauphine Libere and the points jersey. The week
>before that Alan Davis won a stage of the Tour of Germany. I for one
>am pumped for the TdF.


And Stuuie also was 5th in the mountain competition. Yeah, that's
right. Stuie the mountain climber :-)


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Old 17-06.-2004, 11:40 PM   #13
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& a stair-runner turned cyclist from Canberra called Crake riding for an
Austrian division 3 pro team beat Evans over the huge Grossglochner climb
& placed top ten on GC in a geniune Euro Tour .
"Richard Sherratt" <richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote in
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> On 17 Jun 2004 00:33:30 -0700, p_o_y2000@yahoo.com.au (blah) wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >If you haven't been following Aussie cyclists in Europe, you may be
> >surprised to learn that the last week or so has been HUGE. Cadel Evans
> >won the Tour of Austria overall (and a stage), Robbie McEwan has won
> >two stages of the Tour de Suiss (still going) and Stuie O'grady won
> >two stages of the Dauphine Libere and the points jersey. The week
> >before that Alan Davis won a stage of the Tour of Germany. I for one
> >am pumped for the TdF.

>
> And Stuuie also was 5th in the mountain competition. Yeah, that's
> right. Stuie the mountain climber :-)
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Old 18-06.-2004, 08:15 AM   #14
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Steve wrote:
> & a stair-runner turned cyclist from Canberra called Crake riding for an
> Austrian division 3 pro team beat Evans over the huge Grossglochner
> climb & placed top ten on GC in a geniune Euro Tour .




Yeah, it's not as if the Austria tour had the classiest field, but it
was a good ride from Cadel, and there were still some quality riders.
Paul Crake hasn't exactly come from nowhere! Good ride at the nats this
summer, and one of the genuinely fittest blokes in Australia (or Europe,
at the moment).



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Old 18-06.-2004, 08:30 AM   #15
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Peter Vesel wrote:
> [B
> Time gaps from team time trial to be crucial...perhaps the maximum loss
> of time at 2:30 to be a factor. LA to marshall his team to the front of
> the cobbled stage and one of the other favourites to be stuck behind a
> crash on that stage. Gilberto Simoni to talk big and do nothing. Roberto
> Heras to attack LA but not force a break as Armstrong doesn't like
> traitors. McEwen to whinge about no team support...read Petacchi is
> faster than him. Cippolini to whinge about everything, win nothing then
> crash and leave the race early. Petacchi to win Green Jersey.
> Peter




Petacchi might wear green but he cant win it cos he wont finish it.

Ogrady has always been a decent climber, just not outstanding like the
noted riders.

As for Cookey, unless he's faking it, his form is not what it was last
year. shame.

And yes, McGee to be favourite for opening Prologue. Millar to discover
a new form of 'mechanical'

Ohy, and look out for ore riders using them new campag and FSA compact
50/34 chainsets in the hillier stages (at least them woosey wheel-suckin
sprinters and Hamilton)



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