Compulsory helmets for car drivers

Glen F

Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm

1013

It says head band, not helmet. Get it right.

"Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm
>
>

Scott Badman

"Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm

I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and the
standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the issue of
road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.

Anyone else think the priorities are back to front and up side down?

Ape Boy

On Mon, 10 May 2004 08:43:25 GMT, Scott Badman
<sbadman@goldwayenergy.nospam.com.au> wrote:


>
> Anyone else think the priorities are back to front and up side down?
>

No, just inside-out.
Yeah, I've had a long day

Uncle Bully

> I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and the
> standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the issue
of
> road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.
>

But how can you make money off that? Did they mention a headband camera or
the list of fines for not wearing a headband? I'm sure they already have
those worked out.

Peter Vesel

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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> > I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and
the
> > standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the
issue
> of
> > road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.
> >
>
> But how can you make money off that? Did they mention a headband camera or
> the list of fines for not wearing a headband? I'm sure they already have
> those worked out.
>
>
If it saves lives it has to be worth it

Pete

Patrick Young

Glen F wrote:
> Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm

ROTFLOL over the mention of Vic. in the next.

The Interceptor

But if it only saves one life, surely it will be worth it! Just like roll
cages and 30 km/h speed limits, should we get them too?

Brett

Glen F <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm
>
>

cfsmtb

Got this far and no ones mentioned volvo drivers and hats yet.



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Miro

"Scott Badman" <sbadman@goldwayenergy.nospam.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:M6Gnc.17909$KS1.321457@nasal.pacific.net.au...
> > Read the long paragraph nearest the end at:
> > http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/nati...es/s1099572.htm
>
> I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and the
> standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the issue
of
> road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.
>
> Anyone else think the priorities are back to front and up side down?

You mean ....... like as in down under compared to up and over.

wassupdawg

cfsmtb wrote:
> Got this far and no ones mentioned volvo drivers and hats yet.



Volvos and Hats!

But they dont need helmets cos they have that impervious layer of
delusion surrounding their beings cos 'nothing can touch them, cos they
is driving the world's fifth safest car!"



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Alex

"Peter Vesel" <vesel@bigpondnobloodyspam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:409f4ab0$0$30603$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and
> the
> > > standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the
> issue
> > of
> > > road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.
> > >
> >
> > But how can you make money off that? Did they mention a headband camera
or
> > the list of fines for not wearing a headband? I'm sure they already have
> > those worked out.
> >
> >
> If it saves lives it has to be worth it
>
> Pete
>
>
Not all the time.

I'm sure it would save lives if we dropped the metro speed limit to 30kmh
everywhere but I'm not sure it would be worth it. Hell, I'm still not
convinced that 50kmh is worth it...

Ritch

"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message news:<409f4ab0$0$30603$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
> > I noticed nothing was said in that article about driver training, and the
> > standards of driver training in other countries, not to mention the issue
> of
> > road maintenance was shrugged off rather promptly.
> >
>
> But how can you make money off that? Did they mention a headband camera or
> the list of fines for not wearing a headband? I'm sure they already have
> those worked out.

It isn't difficult for a police patrol to determine whether a driver
is wearing a headband. They can spot you using your phone or driving
without a seatbelt, so enforcement of a headband rule would be no more
difficult than enforcing the above rules.

Contrary to populist TV programs, road rules aren't invented in order
to raise revenue. Typically, they are imposed to improve the trade-off
between fast transport and safety. The Keep Left rule is a good
example...

There can be little doubt that increasing the level of safety
equipment reduces the risk of injury or death to the person using the
protection, _all else equal_. However, there is a trade-off with risky
behaviour - ie, people exchange some of the additional safety for
(say) faster driving. This can increase the risk to people that are
not using the protective equipment. A good example of this is the
effect of the introduction of seat belts, which enabled significantly
faster driving for the same level of driver/passenger safety but which
also increased the risks to pedestrians... Driver headbands could fall
in the same category...

2 cents
Ritch

Graeme

"Peter Vesel" <vesel@bigpondnobloodyspam.com> wrote in
news:OrInc.30747$TT.18786@news-server.bigpond.net.au:

>> But how can you make money off that? Did they mention a headband
>> camera or the list of fines for not wearing a headband? I'm sure they
>> already have those worked out.
>>
>>
> If it saves lives it has to be worth it
>

Yep, no doubt it would save a few drivers in the event of an accident.
However, as they would then feel safer driving around due to the extra
safety equipment then they would take more risks and increase the chance
of an accident. That accident could quite likely wipe out a cyclist or
pedestrian.

When the UK introduced compulsory seatbelts the change in number of
drivers killed or seriously injured was statistically insignificant, but
there was a very significant increase in KSIs to vulnerable road users
(cyclists, pedestrians, horse riders etc.).

Any introduction of "safety equipment" should be looked at very closely
to really see what the end result could be.

Graeme