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Sachs Saxonette Luxus

 
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Old 14-04.-2004, 08:52 PM   #1
Ian
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Default Sachs Saxonette Luxus

Anyone use or know someone that uses one of these ?
Interested to know some of the pro's & cons of such a bike.
Suggestions of webs sites that feature reviews, comment or trip reports
using the above also most welcome
Cheers
Ian


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Old 15-04.-2004, 02:09 AM   #2
Chris Baird
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Default Re: Sachs Saxonette Luxus

> Anyone use or know someone that uses one of these ? Interested to
> know some of the pro's & cons of such a bike. Suggestions of webs
> sites that feature reviews, comment or trip reports using the above
> also most welcome


I'll try to make general comments, not being a Sachs owner, but as
someone 'reasonably satisfied' with Rotary's DIY petrol engine. From
the looks of web-searching, the two engines appear very simular.

Try not to do much heavy riding for the first 700 kms or so while the
engine is being run-in, and you gain experience fixing problems as
they come.

Replacing a flat rear wheel is a chore, at least in comparison to
other bikes with quick-release hubs.. "Mr Tuffy"-type tire liners are
a _must_. On long-ride days in hot weather, I've managed to have the
rear tire tube /melt/ on me-- so good tubes are an idea, too. Often,
breaking the chain will be necessary to get enough access to the wheel
and/or motor.

Note that thanks to the engine, it weighs over twice as much as a
typical bike: 30 kgs.

Don't expect great acceleration out of the engine, however it does
keep its speed well. When my engine was fully run-in (about 1400 kms),
it could manage an extended-period crusing speed of 27-29 km/h on
flats. (The Rotary clutch, at least, hates being pushed at 30 or
above. Of course freewheeling faster than that is fine.)

I've managed about 200 kms per day of touring-type travel on a
fully-loaded bike camping tour. (That was pushing human endurance a
little, though. I'm _glad_ I bought a decent seat.

Don't ever use petrol-station 2-stroke. Thanks to the advice of a
local Go-Kart/Rotary mechanic, I used "Repsol" 2T Standard as the 1:50
fuel oil for the first 1000 kilometres. Afterwards, we moved to using
Repsol's 2T "Sintetico"/Synthetic in a 1:60-70. After 3000 kms, the
engine runs _smooth_, starts are usually only one or two pulls, and
I've not noticed a single cylinder-related problem.

Fuel consumption is no where near the proported 125 kms/litre as
Rotary claims. I've only seen about 70 kms/litre.

I always carry a 1 litre water bottle with emergency fuel. It's the
underslung bottle in this picture:
http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ima...ttery_ubolt.jpg

Starter rip-cords break. As a replacement, I've been able to use
regular lawn-mower cord from a hardware store. The fix can be done 'on
the side of the road' if you have the tools. If the Sachs mechanism is
anything like the Rotary, be _very_ careful the spring doesn't jump
out-- or you'll spend 2 hours trying to rewind the thing...

It's mostly the older guys, often European immigrants, who will
come up to you and ask about the bike. P-licence-platers seemingly
harass you less from a normal cyclist experience. And everyone
uses the word "cheat!" :-)

Since November, I've done about 3000 kms in commuting, touring, and
camping. A bit over a month ago I went on a Newcastle->Taree->
Glouster->Armidale->Glouster->Newcastle ride. All up, it was 5 days of
riding time, 40 hours of bum-on-seat, and covered about 1100 kms. I
even managed to bump into aus.bike old-timer Linze while in
Armidale. I did keep a journal and had a digital camera with
me... I've just been slack writing up a report.

--
Chris
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Old 17-04.-2004, 10:22 PM   #3
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Default Re: Sachs Saxonette Luxus

Hey Chris
Thanks for details msg.
I'll take your points on-board.
Keep on cheating !
Cheers
Ian

"Chris Baird" <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> wrote in message
news:uf1xmqmzj4.fsf@brushtail.apana.org.au...
> > Anyone use or know someone that uses one of these ? Interested to
> > know some of the pro's & cons of such a bike. Suggestions of webs
> > sites that feature reviews, comment or trip reports using the above
> > also most welcome

>
> I'll try to make general comments, not being a Sachs owner, but as
> someone 'reasonably satisfied' with Rotary's DIY petrol engine. From
> the looks of web-searching, the two engines appear very simular.
>
> Try not to do much heavy riding for the first 700 kms or so while the
> engine is being run-in, and you gain experience fixing problems as
> they come.
>
> Replacing a flat rear wheel is a chore, at least in comparison to
> other bikes with quick-release hubs.. "Mr Tuffy"-type tire liners are
> a _must_. On long-ride days in hot weather, I've managed to have the
> rear tire tube /melt/ on me-- so good tubes are an idea, too. Often,
> breaking the chain will be necessary to get enough access to the wheel
> and/or motor.
>
> Note that thanks to the engine, it weighs over twice as much as a
> typical bike: 30 kgs.
>
> Don't expect great acceleration out of the engine, however it does
> keep its speed well. When my engine was fully run-in (about 1400 kms),
> it could manage an extended-period crusing speed of 27-29 km/h on
> flats. (The Rotary clutch, at least, hates being pushed at 30 or
> above. Of course freewheeling faster than that is fine.)
>
> I've managed about 200 kms per day of touring-type travel on a
> fully-loaded bike camping tour. (That was pushing human endurance a
> little, though. I'm _glad_ I bought a decent seat.
>
> Don't ever use petrol-station 2-stroke. Thanks to the advice of a
> local Go-Kart/Rotary mechanic, I used "Repsol" 2T Standard as the 1:50
> fuel oil for the first 1000 kilometres. Afterwards, we moved to using
> Repsol's 2T "Sintetico"/Synthetic in a 1:60-70. After 3000 kms, the
> engine runs _smooth_, starts are usually only one or two pulls, and
> I've not noticed a single cylinder-related problem.
>
> Fuel consumption is no where near the proported 125 kms/litre as
> Rotary claims. I've only seen about 70 kms/litre.
>
> I always carry a 1 litre water bottle with emergency fuel. It's the
> underslung bottle in this picture:
> http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ima...ttery_ubolt.jpg
>
> Starter rip-cords break. As a replacement, I've been able to use
> regular lawn-mower cord from a hardware store. The fix can be done 'on
> the side of the road' if you have the tools. If the Sachs mechanism is
> anything like the Rotary, be _very_ careful the spring doesn't jump
> out-- or you'll spend 2 hours trying to rewind the thing...
>
> It's mostly the older guys, often European immigrants, who will
> come up to you and ask about the bike. P-licence-platers seemingly
> harass you less from a normal cyclist experience. And everyone
> uses the word "cheat!" :-)
>
> Since November, I've done about 3000 kms in commuting, touring, and
> camping. A bit over a month ago I went on a Newcastle->Taree->
> Glouster->Armidale->Glouster->Newcastle ride. All up, it was 5 days of
> riding time, 40 hours of bum-on-seat, and covered about 1100 kms. I
> even managed to bump into aus.bike old-timer Linze while in
> Armidale. I did keep a journal and had a digital camera with
> me... I've just been slack writing up a report.
>
> --
> Chris



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