Lift Up The Rock....

B. Lafferty

and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't love to
be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:

Kelme doctors testify in secret
Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given evidence to
the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission investigating the doping
allegations made over the last few months by former Kelme rider Jesus
Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested that the commission respect
their right of privacy and allow them to give evidence in a closed session
at a secret location. Neither made any comment to the press before or after
being questioned by the commission, which is headed by lawyer Enrique
Franch.

So far, the RFEC investigation has heard from Manzano himself, plus former
riders Darío Gadeo, Díaz Cub, and Nacho Gutiérrez, Kelme director Vicente
Belda and team doctor Alfredo Córdova. The commission is still waiting to
hear from Julián Usano who is due to give evidence today.

Robert Chung

B. Lafferty wrote:
> and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
> Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't
> love to be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
>
> Kelme doctors testify in secret
> Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given
> evidence to the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission
> investigating the doping allegations made over the last few months by
> former Kelme rider Jesus Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested
> that the commission respect their right of privacy and allow them to
> give evidence in a closed session at a secret location.

From USA Today:

"The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
will not be under oath.

"At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not be
taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a commission
staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."

Richard Adams

How about that Kobe Bryant trial, eh? Let's drag out the victim's past
and show her to be a promicuous woman, which according to the Writ of
Common Wisdom makes Kobe the real victim.

Two legal systems, but bearing some similarities. The problem in both
countries is all it takes is one greedy person to leak details to the
press for $$$ and reputations can be unjustly ruined.

B. Lafferty wrote:
> and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
> Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't love to
> be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
>
> Kelme doctors testify in secret
> Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given evidence to
> the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission investigating the doping
> allegations made over the last few months by former Kelme rider Jesus
> Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested that the commission respect
> their right of privacy and allow them to give evidence in a closed session
> at a secret location. Neither made any comment to the press before or after
> being questioned by the commission, which is headed by lawyer Enrique
> Franch.
>
> So far, the RFEC investigation has heard from Manzano himself, plus former
> riders Darío Gadeo, Díaz Cub, and Nacho Gutiérrez, Kelme director Vicente
> Belda and team doctor Alfredo Córdova. The commission is still waiting to
> hear from Julián Usano who is due to give evidence today.
>
>

Richard Adams

Robert Chung wrote:

> B. Lafferty wrote:
>
>>and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
>>Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't
>>love to be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
>>
>>Kelme doctors testify in secret
>>Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given
>>evidence to the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission
>>investigating the doping allegations made over the last few months by
>>former Kelme rider Jesus Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested
>>that the commission respect their right of privacy and allow them to
>>give evidence in a closed session at a secret location.
>
>
> From USA Today:
>
> "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
> will not be under oath.
>
> "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not be
> taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a commission
> staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."

Weasels.

Kirby Krieger

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:c6od41$qds@dispatch.concentric.net...
> Robert Chung wrote:
>
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >
> >>and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
> >>Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't
> >>love to be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
> >>
> >>Kelme doctors testify in secret
> >>Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given
> >>evidence to the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission
> >>investigating the doping allegations made over the last few months by
> >>former Kelme rider Jesus Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested
> >>that the commission respect their right of privacy and allow them to
> >>give evidence in a closed session at a secret location.
> >
> >
> > From USA Today:
> >
> > "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
> > will not be under oath.
> >
> > "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not be
> > taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a commission
> > staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> > office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."
>
> Weasels.
>

Short-sighted multi-headed fossorial tuber-fressers.

Curtis L. Russell

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:51:41 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <Magni@Italia.com>
wrote:

>A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
>Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights.

If the right to privacy already exists and the conduct is still only
alledged to be illegal, then, yes, the privacy will continue to run.
Nothing novel about that. Two different issues and if they conflict
and that commission has any authority or standing, a judge or similar
will resolve it.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Nev Shea

"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:c6o6jv$dq1q4$1@ID-
226327.news.uni-berlin.de:

>
> From USA Today:
>
> "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
> will not be under oath.
>
> "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not be
> taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a commission
> staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."


Impressive how they're doing double duty -- got that while they also have
some court proceedings to keep secret the meetings Cheney had with Ken Lay
and other oil execs to develop energy policy.

NS

Stewart Fleming

Robert Chung wrote:
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't
>>love to be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
>
> "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
> will not be under oath.

So, Robert, can you answer Brian's question?

Richard Adams

Nev Shea <spamtrap@garbage.net> wrote in message news:<VfRjc.16204$e4.14013@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:c6o6jv$dq1q4$1@ID-
> 226327.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
> >
> > From USA Today:
> >
> > "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and Cheney
> > will not be under oath.
> >
> > "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not be
> > taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a commission
> > staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> > office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."
>
>
> Impressive how they're doing double duty -- got that while they also have
> some court proceedings to keep secret the meetings Cheney had with Ken Lay
> and other oil execs to develop energy policy.
>
> NS


"So we manipulate the power market in California, until the state
surplus is gone..."

"Right, and George will cut back on programs while cutting your income
taxes, like you pay any, nudge nudge, buddy."

"Ok, so what do you get out of it?"

"Oh, that's the beautiful part, we discredit Gray Davis and have him
recalled and have Bill Simon elected governor."

"Brilliant! What could possibly go wrong?"

Tom Kunich

The interesting thing is that the four of you haven't a clue what the hell
you're talking about.

"Kirby Krieger" <No.KirbyPublic2@Verizon.no.net> wrote in message
news:8UPjc.176$wY.93@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:c6od41$qds@dispatch.concentric.net...
> > Robert Chung wrote:
> >
> > > B. Lafferty wrote:
> > >
> > >>and see what's underneath. A privacy right for possible illegal
contuct?
> > >>Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights. What criminal wouldn't
> > >>love to be able to utilize such a right? From CyclingNews:
> > >>
> > >>Kelme doctors testify in secret
> > >>Kelme team doctors Eufemiano Fuentes and Walter Virú have given
> > >>evidence to the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) commission
> > >>investigating the doping allegations made over the last few months by
> > >>former Kelme rider Jesus Manzano. However, Fuentes and Virú requested
> > >>that the commission respect their right of privacy and allow them to
> > >>give evidence in a closed session at a secret location.
> > >
> > >
> > > From USA Today:
> > >
> > > "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and
Cheney
> > > will not be under oath.
> > >
> > > "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not
be
> > > taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a
commission
> > > staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> > > office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."
> >
> > Weasels.
> >
>
> Short-sighted multi-headed fossorial tuber-fressers.
>
>

Tom Kunich

Still more interesting that somehow the power markets were "manipulated" on
laws that had been instituted by Liberals and opposed by Conservatives. But
then it is Big Business who is to blame that the ultra-Liberal California
Legislature spent the entire surplus in a frenzy of
spend-before-the-voters-get-wise. And forgive me if I'm wrong here - but
didn't all this power company hokee-pokee happen under 'Red' Davis, the
people's communist dictator with all of the same public honesty as Fidel
Castro?

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:c2352af0.0404281436.6358208b@posting.google.com...
> Nev Shea <spamtrap@garbage.net> wrote in message
news:<VfRjc.16204$e4.14013@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:c6o6jv$dq1q4$1@ID-
> > 226327.news.uni-berlin.de:
> >
> > >
> > > From USA Today:
> > >
> > > "The session will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the White House. Bush and
Cheney
> > > will not be under oath.
> > >
> > > "At the request of White House officials, the joint interview will not
be
> > > taped, and no transcript will be produced. A Bush aide and a
commission
> > > staffer will take notes. Gonzales, another official from the counsel's
> > > office and perhaps other Bush aides will be present."
> >
> >
> > Impressive how they're doing double duty -- got that while they also
have
> > some court proceedings to keep secret the meetings Cheney had with Ken
Lay
> > and other oil execs to develop energy policy.
> >
> > NS
>
>
> "So we manipulate the power market in California, until the state
> surplus is gone..."
>
> "Right, and George will cut back on programs while cutting your income
> taxes, like you pay any, nudge nudge, buddy."
>
> "Ok, so what do you get out of it?"
>
> "Oh, that's the beautiful part, we discredit Gray Davis and have him
> recalled and have Bill Simon elected governor."
>
> "Brilliant! What could possibly go wrong?"

Tom Kunich

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:c6od2a$qdt@dispatch.concentric.net...
> How about that Kobe Bryant trial, eh? Let's drag out the victim's past
> and show her to be a promicuous woman, which according to the Writ of
> Common Wisdom makes Kobe the real victim.

No, let's not give Kobe his day in court. You can pass judgement on him with
all of your knowledge of the "crime".

Tom Kunich

"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org> wrote in message
news:ctkv80pn43vdmk20gm34lq476p903l4dlo@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:51:41 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <Magni@Italia.com>
> wrote:
>
> >A privacy right for possible illegal contuct?
> >Now that's a novel theory of privacy rights.
>
> If the right to privacy already exists and the conduct is still only
> alledged to be illegal, then, yes, the privacy will continue to run.
> Nothing novel about that. Two different issues and if they conflict
> and that commission has any authority or standing, a judge or similar
> will resolve it.

Lafferty is under the impression that the President should break all
traditions and executive privilege so that the Liberals can expose all of
the intelligent secrets that Clinton didn't publish in the New York Times.

TritonRider

>From: "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo.com

>Still more interesting that somehow the power markets were "manipulated" on
>laws that had been instituted by Liberals and opposed by Conservatives. But
>then it is Big Business who is to blame that the ultra-Liberal California
>Legislature spent the entire surplus in a frenzy of
>spend-before-the-voters-get-wise. And forgive me if I'm wrong here - but
>didn't all this power company hokee-pokee happen under 'Red' Davis, the
>people's communist dictator with all of the same public honesty as Fidel
>Castro?
>

Hey Tom don't you know that regulating 1/2 an industry and forcing them to set
prices well below their costs is a good way to generate new jobs? Think of all
the votes that Davis got out of this. Of course all the people who lost jobs,
my wife who lost a huge chunk of value in a retirement fund that her
grandfather set up when she was a baby. Nobody could screw up a utility, right?
He didn't plan for attempted communism in the US. His screw up, Lord knows it
wasn't Davis just ask the California press. It was the ultimate evil "BIG
BUSINESS". I still think the SOB should be held liable for all the damage he
caused with his little price setting scheme.
Bill C