Cipo the climber

psycholist

Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
"freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).

Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
minutes down on the winner, but he finished.

I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he wants
to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.

Bob C.

Tom Kunich

"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
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> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>
> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>
> I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he
wants
> to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.

Here's a test: How many Giros has Cipollini ridden in and how many has he
finished?

Carl Sundquist

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
> news:c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> > "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> >
> > Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> > minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
> >
> > I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he
> wants
> > to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.
>
> Here's a test: How many Giros has Cipollini ridden in and how many has he
> finished?
>

Since he's won the final stage of the Giro five times, I'd say he's finished
at least that many.

Richard Adams

psycholist wrote:

> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>
> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>
> I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he wants
> to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.
>
> Bob C.
>
>

You hear right. The third stage features a mountain top finish. If
Cipo wants a shot at more than one stage for a sprint victory, he's
going to need some climbing legs. Good practice for him and considering
he's made it this far _and_ could challenge for Sunday's stage victory,
Cipo is showing some grit.

Sonarrat

in article hTFic.11023$e4.3385@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, Tom Kunich
at cyclintom@yahoo.com wrote on 4/24/04 8:02 PM:

> "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
> news:c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net...
>> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
>> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>>
>> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
>> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>>
>> I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he
> wants
>> to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.
>
> Here's a test: How many Giros has Cipollini ridden in and how many has he
> finished?

He has raced in 13 since 1989 (when he won a stage) and finished 7 - 1991,
1992, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2002. And in all of those, he won at least
one of the last few stages.

-Sonarrat.

Dick Durbin

"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>
> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.

Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
like a mule eating briars.

Dick Durbin

Tom Kunich

"Sonarrat" <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote in message
news:BCB094D2.3325%mynick@nospam.hotmail...
> in article hTFic.11023$e4.3385@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, Tom
Kunich
> at cyclintom@yahoo.com wrote on 4/24/04 8:02 PM:
>
> > "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
> > news:c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net...
> >> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> >> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> >>
> >> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> >> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
> >>
> >> I hear there are some early mountains in the Giro this year and if he
> > wants
> >> to strut his stuff in the sprint stages, he has to get there first.
> >
> > Here's a test: How many Giros has Cipollini ridden in and how many has
he
> > finished?
>
> He has raced in 13 since 1989 (when he won a stage) and finished 7 - 1991,
> 1992, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2002. And in all of those, he won at least
> one of the last few stages.

OK, another test - do they have any testing climbs in the Giro?

Here's the point, Cipo may not be a climber compared to Roberto Haras but
some butt-head like psycholist couldn't possibly stay on the same slope with
him.

Troy Thiel

ddurbin@tfn.net (Dick Durbin) wrote in message news:<4f3a7375.0404250530.759a1356@posting.google.com>...
> "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
> > Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> > "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> >
> > Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> > minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>
> Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
> passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
> like a mule eating briars.
>
> Dick Durbin

Dick,

Wasn't that a fantastic race to watch? I loved the sound of the
request to "push" coming from the Italians...I've got a photo of 5
guys pushing Cippo with that big grin on his face. What a great race
the Tour de Georgia's been.

Richard Adams

Troy Thiel wrote:

> ddurbin@tfn.net (Dick Durbin) wrote in message news:<4f3a7375.0404250530.759a1356@posting.google.com>...
>
>>"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
>>
>>>Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
>>>"freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>>>
>>>Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
>>>minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>>
>>Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
>>passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
>>like a mule eating briars.
>>
>>Dick Durbin
>
>
> Dick,
>
> Wasn't that a fantastic race to watch? I loved the sound of the
> request to "push" coming from the Italians...I've got a photo of 5
> guys pushing Cippo with that big grin on his face. What a great race
> the Tour de Georgia's been.

Care to post it? :-)

Pete Jenior

"Dick Durbin" <ddurbin@tfn.net> wrote in message
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> "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
> > Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> > "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> >
> > Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> > minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>
> Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
> passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
> like a mule eating briars.
>
I was about 1.5 miles up the climb and I saw the same thing, except it was
like 5 guys...
-Pete

Steve Blankenship

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Troy Thiel wrote:
>
> > ddurbin@tfn.net (Dick Durbin) wrote in message
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> >
> >>"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
> >>
> >>>Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> >>>"freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> >>>
> >>>Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> >>>minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
> >>
> >>Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
> >>passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
> >>like a mule eating briars.
> >>
> >>Dick Durbin
> >
> >
> > Dick,
> >
> > Wasn't that a fantastic race to watch? I loved the sound of the
> > request to "push" coming from the Italians...I've got a photo of 5
> > guys pushing Cippo with that big grin on his face. What a great race
> > the Tour de Georgia's been.
>
> Care to post it? :-)

Yep, he was getting pushed right up the mountain at Brasstown, grinning with
one hand on the bars and giving the thumbs up with the other! All the while
everyone around him was dying and begging for pushes. Even better, here's a
video from Hogpen Gap, shot by a guy from my club. Nice of him to lend his
wife to the cause! http://www.thetalentfarm.com/Hogpen%20Cippo.rm

brian roth

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<hTFic.11023$
>
> Here's a test: How many Giros has Cipollini ridden in and how many has he
> finished?

Every Giro since 1989 except 1993 (tour prep) and 1994 (bad veulta crash).
He as never failed to win a stage in any Giro. Has won stages in every
TdF ridden except the first.

Dave

"Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenship@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> > Troy Thiel wrote:
> >
> > > ddurbin@tfn.net (Dick Durbin) wrote in message
> news:<4f3a7375.0404250530.759a1356@posting.google.com>...
> > >
> > >>"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
> news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
> > >>
> > >>>Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
> > >>>"freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
> > >>>
> > >>>Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
> > >>>minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
> > >>
> > >>Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
> > >>passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
> > >>like a mule eating briars.
> > >>
> > >>Dick Durbin
> > >
> > >
> > > Dick,
> > >
> > > Wasn't that a fantastic race to watch? I loved the sound of the
> > > request to "push" coming from the Italians...I've got a photo of 5
> > > guys pushing Cippo with that big grin on his face. What a great race
> > > the Tour de Georgia's been.
> >
> > Care to post it? :-)
>
> Yep, he was getting pushed right up the mountain at Brasstown, grinning with
> one hand on the bars and giving the thumbs up with the other! All the while
> everyone around him was dying and begging for pushes. Even better, here's a
> video from Hogpen Gap, shot by a guy from my club. Nice of him to lend his
> wife to the cause! http://www.thetalentfarm.com/Hogpen%20Cippo.rm


Turn the tables now. Even though Gord may have beat Cipo today, do you think ANY women in Europe
would wait on the side of the road to kiss Gord?....lol
Dave

Steven L. Sheffield

On 04/25/2004 07:11 PM, in article BcCdnSiKv48__BHdRVn-hQ@comcast.com,
"Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenship@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:c6ha2o$qe2@dispatch.concentric.net...
>> Troy Thiel wrote:
>>
>>> ddurbin@tfn.net (Dick Durbin) wrote in message
> news:<4f3a7375.0404250530.759a1356@posting.google.com>...
>>>
>>>> "psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
> news:<c6f4rp$lu3$1@news3.infoave.net>...
>>>>
>>>>> Johan Bruyneel described today's Tour de Georgia finish on Brasstown as
>>>>> "freakishly steep" and compared it to the Angliru (sp?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Mario actually finished this hellish stage. He was something like 16
>>>>> minutes down on the winner, but he finished.
>>>>
>>>> Well, Mario wasn't doing much climbing up Brasstown Bald. When he
>>>> passed us there were three guys pushing him and Mario was grinning
>>>> like a mule eating briars.
>>>>
>>>> Dick Durbin
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> Wasn't that a fantastic race to watch? I loved the sound of the
>>> request to "push" coming from the Italians...I've got a photo of 5
>>> guys pushing Cippo with that big grin on his face. What a great race
>>> the Tour de Georgia's been.
>>
>> Care to post it? :-)
>
> Yep, he was getting pushed right up the mountain at Brasstown, grinning with
> one hand on the bars and giving the thumbs up with the other! All the while
> everyone around him was dying and begging for pushes. Even better, here's a
> video from Hogpen Gap, shot by a guy from my club. Nice of him to lend his
> wife to the cause! http://www.thetalentfarm.com/Hogpen%20Cippo.rm



CLASSIC!!!!!



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