Can't wait to hear Big-mouth Boonen says now....

ronde chumpion

Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the group and
riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.

22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.

Steve Wingate

On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0700, ronde chumpion wrote:

> Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the group and
> riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.
>
> 22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.


He is getting a bit full of himself in very short order...at least George
nipped him at the end.

Kenny

Steve Wingate <s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.04.12.05.26.26.386821@pobox.com>...
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0700, ronde chumpion wrote:
>
> > Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the group and
> > riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.
> >
> > 22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.
>
>
> He is getting a bit full of himself in very short order...at least George
> nipped him at the end.

big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner than Hincapie.

Tom Kunich

"Kenny" <gelei2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47493688.0404120735.6436a3e0@posting.google.com...
>
> big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner than
Hincapie.

Always good to see those who know what's going to happen before it does.
Especially since it's history.

Bartow W. Riggs

Obviously Kenny is already wrong...


"Kenny" <gelei2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47493688.0404120735.6436a3e0@posting.google.com...
> Steve Wingate <s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2004.04.12.05.26.26.386821@pobox.com>...
> > On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0700, ronde chumpion wrote:
> >
> > > Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the group and
> > > riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.
> > >
> > > 22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.
> >
> >
> > He is getting a bit full of himself in very short order...at least
George
> > nipped him at the end.
>
> big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner than
Hincapie.

Chris

"Bartow W. Riggs" <briggs@surewest.net> wrote in message
news:107mfrt5rpvfde3@corp.supernews.com...
> Obviously Kenny is already wrong...

I suppose not obvious to Kenny!


>
> "Kenny" <gelei2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47493688.0404120735.6436a3e0@posting.google.com...
> > Steve Wingate <s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:<pan.2004.04.12.05.26.26.386821@pobox.com>...
> > > On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0700, ronde chumpion wrote:
> > >
> > > > Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the group and
> > > > riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.
> > > >
> > > > 22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.
> > >
> > >
> > > He is getting a bit full of himself in very short order...at least
> George
> > > nipped him at the end.
> >
> > big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner than
> Hincapie.
>
>

Kenny

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<OsAec.6294$k05.2337@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> "Kenny" <gelei2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47493688.0404120735.6436a3e0@posting.google.com...
> >
> > big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner than
> Hincapie.
>
> Always good to see those who know what's going to happen before it does.
> Especially since it's history.

Explain. Or are you mentioning Gent-Wevelgem? I'm sorry i had to be
more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race. I know you Americans
make these strictly distinct categories classic, Semi-classic, WC
race, Monument, etc. Over here this distinction is not so strictly
defined.

Ewoud Dronkert

On 13 Apr 2004 06:31:50 -0700, Kenny wrote:
> I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense! Are you saying
Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich
with its constant course changes?

> I know you Americans
> make these strictly distinct categories classic, Semi-classic, WC
> race, Monument, etc. Over here this distinction is not so strictly
> defined.

Huh? Yes it is.

Van Hoorebeeck Bart

Ewoud Dronkert schreef:

> On 13 Apr 2004 06:31:50 -0700, Kenny wrote:
> > I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race.
>
> Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense! Are you saying
> Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich
> with its constant course changes?
>

I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is now talking himself
out of it.
Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we call Wevelgem definitely a
classic.

Ewoud Dronkert

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:47:45 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders
> we call Wevelgem definitely a classic.

Not Wuyts though, he said semi-klassieker.

Van Hoorebeeck Bart

Ewoud Dronkert schreef:

> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:47:45 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> > Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders
> > we call Wevelgem definitely a classic.
>
> Not Wuyts though, he said semi-klassieker.

ridiculous, semi-klassieker is for Harelbeke, Brabantse etc.
Well who is Wuyts anyway. Some teacher with midlife crisis who turned to
cycling commentary. Can't even hold De Cauwer's wheel these days ;-)

Tom Kunich

"Van Hoorebeeck Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@wvc.vlaanderen.be> wrote in
message news:407BEF81.28654233@wvc.vlaanderen.be...
>
> Ewoud Dronkert schreef:
>
> > On 13 Apr 2004 06:31:50 -0700, Kenny wrote:
> > > I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race.
> >
> > Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense! Are you saying
> > Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich
> > with its constant course changes?
> >
>
> I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is now talking
himself
> out of it. Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we call Wevelgem \
> definitely a classic.

Now I'm getting lost. Perhaps it's in the translation:

Hincapie HAS won a classic - Gent in 2001. Tom Boonen is without a doubt a
talented rider whom will probably be more successful in the future is the
VDB-itis doesn't get him first.

Arguing that a classic isn't a world cup classic is sort of pointless since
the world cup will be redesigned next year won't it? At that point Gent WILL
be a world cup classic. And the race won't change a bit.

After reading Jesus telling us that all of the drugs caused depression, it
sort of makes the actions VDB, Pantani and Jimenez come into sharper focus.

Tom Kunich

"Van Hoorebeeck Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@wvc.vlaanderen.be> wrote in
message news:407BF6D5.EFA46DF5@wvc.vlaanderen.be...
>
> ridiculous, semi-klassieker is for Harelbeke, Brabantse etc.
> Well who is Wuyts anyway. Some teacher with midlife crisis who turned to
> cycling commentary. Can't even hold De Cauwer's wheel these days ;-)

Probably couldn't hold Schote's either.

Amit

Van Hoorebeeck Bart <bart.vanhoorebeeck@wvc.vlaanderen.be> wrote in message news:<407BEF81.28654233@wvc.vlaanderen.be>...
> Ewoud Dronkert schreef:
>
> > On 13 Apr 2004 06:31:50 -0700, Kenny wrote:
> > > I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race.
> >
> > Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense! Are you saying
> > Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich
> > with its constant course changes?
> >
>
> I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is now talking himself
> out of it.
> Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we call Wevelgem definitely a
> classic.

Wevelgem isn't nearly is selective as Flanders, Liege, Roubaix,
Fleche, Amstel. Even Growmont won it once.