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Re: Redlands Bicycle Classic

 
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Old 04-04.-2004, 12:12 AM   #1
Kyle Legate
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Sierraman wrote:
> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8cbacf73091ff9b448783485b9ba6641@news.teranews.com...
>> h squared wrote:
>>> Sierraman wrote:
>>>> SF
>>>> is a great place, aside from all the queers.
>>>
>>> i could understand the "i'd rather be considered a stalker than a
>>> "queer"" statement, given that you may live in a very intolerant
>>> place.
>>>

>> Do intolerant small mountain communities actually tolerate stalking?
>>

>
> Not by queers. They are some of your biggest stalkers,
>

Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I would
bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course, the
truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.


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Old 04-04.-2004, 01:49 AM   #2
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"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ad82f5644b01e8bc13023defcccef90@news.teranews.com...
> Sierraman wrote:
> > "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8cbacf73091ff9b448783485b9ba6641@news.teranews.com...
> >> h squared wrote:
> >>> Sierraman wrote:
> >>>> SF
> >>>> is a great place, aside from all the queers.
> >>>
> >>> i could understand the "i'd rather be considered a stalker than a
> >>> "queer"" statement, given that you may live in a very intolerant
> >>> place.
> >>>
> >> Do intolerant small mountain communities actually tolerate stalking?
> >>

> >
> > Not by queers. They are some of your biggest stalkers,
> >

> Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I

would
> bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course, the
> truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.


Maybe so, but I said some of your biggest, not the biggest. Just from
working and going to school in Fresno for a couple of years, I was hit on
numerous times by guys and it's a known fact in what is known as Sin City,
(Fresno). The stats for that (Fresno) might prove that to be the majority of
stalkers, I mean what the hell would provide high numbers like that for
stalkers? I don't think the misc criminal stalkers would generate those
numbers but things have changed in Fresno and you would have to get the
stats for then and compare to now. Don't know about other big cities, just
speaking for Fresno.


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Old 04-04.-2004, 08:51 AM   #3
Tom Kunich
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"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ad82f5644b01e8bc13023defcccef90@news.teranews.com...
>
> Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I

would
> bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course, the
> truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.


If memory serves something like 30% of stalkers are homosexuals. Out of 2%
of the population.

40% of pedophiles are homosexual. The homosexual community has been trying
to turn the attention away from this fact by claiming that homosexual
pedophilic acts by married men demonstrate the the perpetrators are not
homosexuals. "A rose by any other name."

Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."

Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."

The top six U.S. male serial killers were all homosexuals according to Dr.
Cameron and other researchers.



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Old 04-04.-2004, 08:59 AM   #4
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"Sierraman" <riposa@sti.net> wrote in message
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>
> Maybe so, but I said some of your biggest, not the biggest. Just from
> working and going to school in Fresno for a couple of years, I was hit on
> numerous times by guys and it's a known fact in what is known as Sin City,
> (Fresno). The stats for that (Fresno) might prove that to be the majority

of
> stalkers, I mean what the hell would provide high numbers like that for
> stalkers? I don't think the misc criminal stalkers would generate those
> numbers but things have changed in Fresno and you would have to get the
> stats for then and compare to now. Don't know about other big cities, just
> speaking for Fresno.


Investigations have show that:

Female rape victims report their rapes about 1/3rd of the time. This is sort
of shocking since it indicates that rape is considerably more common than
statistics show.

More importantly, they also show that less than 10% of male rape victims
report their rapes because cops and prosecutors simple laugh in their faces
and tell them that it would be impossible to get a jury to find any crimes
since a man is expected to protect himself.

Here's the real kicker to all of this: if you correct the figures for these
errors about half of all rapes are homosexual in nature. And this is from a
meager 2% of the population.

I don't have anything personally against homosexuals. But let's not pretend
that they are some helpless victims of discrimination. There is strong
evidence that the discrimination against homosexuals has been founded in
strong experience.



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Old 04-04.-2004, 06:07 PM   #5
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Sierraman wrote:
>
> Maybe so, but I said some of your biggest, not the biggest. Just from
> working and going to school in Fresno for a couple of years, I was
> hit on numerous times by guys and it's a known fact in what is known
> as Sin City, (Fresno).
>

Getting hit on is not being stalked. Did the same guys follow you around and
hit on you in a variety of different places? Were they observing you in your
private life, taking mental notes so that they can learn your routine?


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Old 05-04.-2004, 05:15 PM   #6
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In article <F5Ibc.14778$lt2.12051@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8ad82f5644b01e8bc13023defcccef90@news.teranews.com...
> >
> > Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I

> would
> > bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course, the
> > truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.

>
> If memory serves something like 30% of stalkers are homosexuals. Out of 2%
> of the population.
>
> 40% of pedophiles are homosexual. The homosexual community has been trying
> to turn the attention away from this fact by claiming that homosexual
> pedophilic acts by married men demonstrate the the perpetrators are not
> homosexuals. "A rose by any other name."
>
> Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
> a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
> aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
> says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
> indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
>
> Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
> a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
> aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
> says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
> indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
>
> The top six U.S. male serial killers were all homosexuals according to Dr.
> Cameron and other researchers.
>
>
>


Hmm, this sounds rather familiar, doesn't it:

http://www.cstnews.com/Code/MassMurd.html

Nothing like an unbiased source, eh?

--
tanx,
Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
A: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

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Old 05-04.-2004, 08:12 PM   #7
Steven L. Sheffield
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On 04/05/2004 02:15 AM, in article
YOURhoward-9B9B53.01150305042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Howard Kveck"
<YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:

> In article <F5Ibc.14778$lt2.12051@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8ad82f5644b01e8bc13023defcccef90@news.teranews.com...
>>>
>>> Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I

>> would
>>> bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course, the
>>> truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.

>>
>> If memory serves something like 30% of stalkers are homosexuals. Out of 2%
>> of the population.
>>
>> 40% of pedophiles are homosexual. The homosexual community has been trying
>> to turn the attention away from this fact by claiming that homosexual
>> pedophilic acts by married men demonstrate the the perpetrators are not
>> homosexuals. "A rose by any other name."
>>
>> Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
>> a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
>> aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
>> says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
>> indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
>>
>> Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents that
>> a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often repressed
>> aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas who
>> says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their victims
>> indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
>>
>> The top six U.S. male serial killers were all homosexuals according to Dr.
>> Cameron and other researchers.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Hmm, this sounds rather familiar, doesn't it:
>
> http://www.cstnews.com/Code/MassMurd.html
>
> Nothing like an unbiased source, eh?



Nothing like plagiarizing an unbiased source, eh?



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Old 06-04.-2004, 12:29 AM   #8
Tom Kunich
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-9B9B53.01150305042004@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article <F5Ibc.14778$lt2.12051@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8ad82f5644b01e8bc13023defcccef90@news.teranews.com...
> > >
> > > Would you care to back up your assertion with some crime statistics? I

> > would
> > > bet money that the majority of stalkers are heterosexual. Of course,

the
> > > truth shouldn't get in the way of your prejudice.

> >
> > If memory serves something like 30% of stalkers are homosexuals. Out of

2%
> > of the population.
> >
> > 40% of pedophiles are homosexual. The homosexual community has been

trying
> > to turn the attention away from this fact by claiming that homosexual
> > pedophilic acts by married men demonstrate the the perpetrators are not
> > homosexuals. "A rose by any other name."
> >
> > Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents

that
> > a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often

repressed
> > aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas

who
> > says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their

victims
> > indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
> >
> > Dr. Charles Socarides, in his classic "The Overt Homosexual" documents

that
> > a major attribute of the overt homosexual is aggression - often

repressed
> > aggression. This is supported by psychology professor, Dr. Frank du Mas

who
> > says that homosexuals often are mass killers who also torture their

victims
> > indicating "a higher intensity of aggression."
> >
> > The top six U.S. male serial killers were all homosexuals according to

Dr.
> > Cameron and other researchers.

>
> Hmm, this sounds rather familiar, doesn't it:
>
> http://www.cstnews.com/Code/MassMurd.html
>
> Nothing like an unbiased source, eh?


You can get the same information in a dozen places. I note that instead of
criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.


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Old 06-04.-2004, 01:20 AM   #9
Robert Chung
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> I note that instead
> of criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.


Yeah, Howard. Who do you think you are, the White House?


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Old 06-04.-2004, 12:07 PM   #10
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In article <EXecc.15779$Dv2.3889@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You can get the same information in a dozen places. I note that instead of
> criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.


I didn't criticize any facts, as there were none there. Getting biased
information from a dozen places doesn't make it any more worthwhile.
Defining terms in ways that prove a position invalidates that kind of
"research", imo.

For instance: "Homosexuals are often mass killers" is a fact? If that
were indeed a fact, then we'd be having slaughter in the streets from all
the homos running amuck.

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Howard

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Old 06-04.-2004, 12:13 PM   #11
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>From: Howard Kveck YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com

>I didn't criticize any facts, as there were none there. Getting biased
>information from a dozen places doesn't make it any more worthwhile.


Howard! How dare you suggest that reading a dozen sources that parrot your
bias is invalid. Especially in this election year, and the 9/11 fiasco this
seems to have become the rule, not the exception.
Then again it may have been for a long time. It's a real bitch to actually
seek out divergent opinions and reports, and decide for yourself. You'd at
least think that bike racers with their tolerance for pain and suffering would
work a little harder to make up their own minds.
Bill C
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Old 06-04.-2004, 12:49 PM   #12
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"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<c4s107$2jr8rp$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > I note that instead
> > of criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.

>
> Yeah, Howard. Who do you think you are, the White House?


Why do you believe this is specific to the White House?
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Old 06-04.-2004, 02:18 PM   #13
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gwhite wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:<c4s107$2jr8rp$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> I note that instead
>>> of criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.

>>
>> Yeah, Howard. Who do you think you are, the White House?

>
> Why do you believe this is specific to the White House?


If I wrote that the sun is shining outside my window at the moment, why do
believe that situation is specific to my window?


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Old 07-04.-2004, 03:53 AM   #14
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"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<c4teil$2kds06$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> gwhite wrote:
> > "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:<c4s107$2jr8rp$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> >> Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> I note that instead
> >>> of criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.
> >>
> >> Yeah, Howard. Who do you think you are, the White House?

> >
> > Why do you believe this is specific to the White House?

>
> If I wrote that the sun is shining outside my window at the moment, why do
> believe that situation is specific to my window?


Because that is what you wrote?
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Old 07-04.-2004, 04:00 AM   #15
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gwhite wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:<c4teil$2kds06$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> gwhite wrote:
>>> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:<c4s107$2jr8rp$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>>>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> I note that instead
>>>>> of criticizing the facts you criticize the source. Interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, Howard. Who do you think you are, the White House?
>>>
>>> Why do you believe this is specific to the White House?

>>
>> If I wrote that the sun is shining outside my window at the moment,
>> why do believe that situation is specific to my window?

>
> Because that is what you wrote?


I think you need to read a bit less and understand a bit more.


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