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I have two unused bikes in my garage that I am thinking about
cannibalizing to make one working commuting bike. The first is an old English built Raleigh from the "12 speed" era which I think makes it roughly 20-25 years old. The frame says Reynolds 20-30, and it has the really great retro-look touring geometry that I like so much. Also in my garage is another unused bike: a modern looking criterium frame with aggressive angles, straight forks, and a ride that I find too harsh and twitchy for my tastes. This second bike has Campy 8 speed Veloce components. What are the chances of moving the full set of Campy components over to the Raleigh frame? I know the purists out there will cringe at the very idea, but is there any reason why it wouldn't work? I used to own the exact identical female version of the Raleigh, which I gave away to a friend. My friend replaced all the parts with Shimano Deora (or possibly Tiagra???) and built it back up for his wife. This worked well, so now I'm wondering if the same thing could be done with the Campy parts. |
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Keith Boone <kboone@nospam.rogers.com> writes:
> I have two unused bikes in my garage that I am thinking about > cannibalizing to make one working commuting bike. > > The first is an old English built Raleigh from the "12 speed" era > which I think makes it roughly 20-25 years old. The frame says Reynolds > 20-30, and it has the really great retro-look touring geometry that I like > so much. > > Also in my garage is another unused bike: a modern looking criterium > frame with aggressive angles, straight forks, and a ride that I find too > harsh and twitchy for my tastes. This second bike has Campy 8 speed > Veloce components. > > What are the chances of moving the full set of Campy components over to > the Raleigh frame? No reaosn it couldn't work. You'd have to respace the rear triangle- your rear dropouts are currently 126 mm apart and they will need to be 130 mm for the Campy 8 speed. Other than that, it ought to be a straight swap for parts- the only other complications I could see are if the Raleigh doesn't have downtube shifter braze-ons to mount the cable housing stops, and if the Campy brakes won't reach the rims. |
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Keith Boone wrote:
> ... I used to own the > exact identical female version of the Raleigh, which I gave away to a > friend. My friend replaced all the parts with Shimano Deora... Male bike: Shimano Deore Female bike: Shimano Deora -- Tom Sherman – Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Keith Boone <kboone@nospam.rogers.com> wrote;
> What are the chances of moving the full set of Campy components over to > the Raleigh frame? An English-built Raleigh is more than likely afflicted with all those abominable 26tpi parts that render so many otherwise desirable old Raleighs worthless. If that's the case with yours, you may have to keep the English headset and (worse) the bottom bracket and maybe even (ugh) the cranks. I'd investigate a bit, and consider updating another old bike if yours is a "real" Raleigh. Chalo Colina "With bikes this fubar, who needs the French?" |
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> > What are the chances of moving the full set of Campy components over to
> > the Raleigh frame? > > An English-built Raleigh is more than likely afflicted with all those > abominable 26tpi parts that render so many otherwise desirable old > Raleighs worthless. > > If that's the case with yours, you may have to keep the English > headset and (worse) the bottom bracket and maybe even (ugh) the > cranks. >... > Chalo Colina A good bike shop should be able to re tap the 26 tpi bottom bracket shell to the standard 24 tpi. I've had this done on several Nottingham built Raleighs without any trouble. You may need a longer axle as these shells are 70 or 71 mm wide. Another option is to buy Phil wood 26 tpi rings and either use a Phil Wood BB or a Shimano UN72 cartrige BB. IMHO The headset isn't that big of a deal as the lower race is interchangable with modern headsets, and even then the headsets on old Raleighs seem to be more durable than many headsets. Sheldon does a nice job explaining some of the options and issues at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/raleigh26.html Bill Putnam |
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