Flat bar shifter/lever for cantilever

Bill

I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in back
with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur in
front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys? Will I have
to go to a separate lever and shifter set? Will I have to change my front
derailleur?

My hope is I can set up the bar with stem attached and then to change all I
have to do is attach the stem thread and adjust the cables and roll out the
door. Thanks,
Bill

David Kerber

In article <G3akc.2254$Xj6.32870@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
bill@example.invalid says...
> I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in back
> with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur in
> front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys? Will I have
> to go to a separate lever and shifter set? Will I have to change my front
> derailleur?

Are you trying to get integrated shifters on your flat bars? I don't
think that will work at all. If that's not what you're doing, then
please explain further.

Pretty much any brifters in Shimano's line from Tiagra on up would work
fine with your setup on the drop bars; it's practically identical to
what's on my tourer.

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Sheldon Brown

Bill wrote:

> I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in back
> with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur in
> front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys?

There is no Shimano straight bar combined lever in 9-speed that is
compatible with those calipers.

> Will I have to go to a separate lever and shifter set?

Yes. We have some unusually nice Ritchey brake levers on special:

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakes.html#leversup

> Will I have to change my front derailleur?

If you go with an indexed front shifter, there is no straight-bar unit
that will index properly with the 105 front derailer.

You might want to consider GripShift for this application.

> My hope is I can set up the bar with stem attached and then to change all I
> have to do is attach the stem thread and adjust the cables and roll out the
> door.

Adjusting the cables will be quite time consuming. Might want to go
with quick-release connectors for the gear cables. We've got some nice
Rohloff QRs for this, see: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rohloff

Note that this won't work if your bike's housing stops are braze-ons
that encircle the cable, but if your bike has DT shifter bosses with
bolt-on housing-stop adaptors, you can get a separate set of housing
stop adaptors for each handlebar set, thus be able to swap out the whole
system without needing to readjust your shift cables.

If your frame has slotted cable stops for the rear brake, you can
replace the Avid "link wire" with a traditional yoke and separate
transverse cable. This would allow you to just unhook whole the brake
cable with no need to readjust anything.

Sheldon "Versatility" Brown
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Bill

"David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
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> In article <G3akc.2254$Xj6.32870@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> bill@example.invalid says...
> > I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in
back
> > with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur
in
> > front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys? Will I
have
> > to go to a separate lever and shifter set? Will I have to change my
front
> > derailleur?
>
> Are you trying to get integrated shifters on your flat bars? I don't
> think that will work at all. If that's not what you're doing, then
> please explain further.
>
> Pretty much any brifters in Shimano's line from Tiagra on up would work
> fine with your setup on the drop bars; it's practically identical to
> what's on my tourer.
>
I have drop bars now. I want to set up a flat bar configuration I can
interchange at will. Integrated would be nice but I'll do separates if
necessary. My concern is a brake lever that will work with the Avid Shorty
cantilevers and ideally a shifter that will work with the 105 triple front
derailleur.

Bill

"Sheldon Brown" <captbike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote in message
news:409147EC.1020809@sheldonbrown.com...
> Bill wrote:
>
> > I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in
back
> > with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur
in
> > front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys?
>
> There is no Shimano straight bar combined lever in 9-speed that is
> compatible with those calipers.
>
> > Will I have to go to a separate lever and shifter set?
>
> Yes. We have some unusually nice Ritchey brake levers on special:
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakes.html#leversup
>
> > Will I have to change my front derailleur?
>
> If you go with an indexed front shifter, there is no straight-bar unit
> that will index properly with the 105 front derailer.
>
> You might want to consider GripShift for this application.
>
> > My hope is I can set up the bar with stem attached and then to change
all I
> > have to do is attach the stem thread and adjust the cables and roll out
the
> > door.
>
> Adjusting the cables will be quite time consuming. Might want to go
> with quick-release connectors for the gear cables. We've got some nice
> Rohloff QRs for this, see: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rohloff
>
> Note that this won't work if your bike's housing stops are braze-ons
> that encircle the cable, but if your bike has DT shifter bosses with
> bolt-on housing-stop adaptors, you can get a separate set of housing
> stop adaptors for each handlebar set, thus be able to swap out the whole
> system without needing to readjust your shift cables.
>
> If your frame has slotted cable stops for the rear brake, you can
> replace the Avid "link wire" with a traditional yoke and separate
> transverse cable. This would allow you to just unhook whole the brake
> cable with no need to readjust anything.
>
> Sheldon "Versatility" Brown
> +------------------------------------------------------------------+

Sheldon, thanks for the info. I would consider gripshift. I don't mind
adjusting the cables. I'll leave the wires and front housing attached and
just feed them through the rear and adjust. This is an occasional/experiment
kind of a thing, which gripshift model would index the triple 105 in front
and the 9 speed xt rear? Inexpensive low end is better for this application.
Bill

Sheldon Brown

>>Bill wrote:
>>
>>>I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in
>>> back with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur
>>> in front.

I plied again:

>>If you go with an indexed front shifter, there is no straight-bar unit
>>that will index properly with the 105 front derailer.
>>
>>You might want to consider GripShift for this application.
>
> Sheldon, thanks for the info. I would consider gripshift. I don't mind
> adjusting the cables. I'll leave the wires and front housing attached and
> just feed them through the rear and adjust. This is an occasional/experiment
> kind of a thing, which gripshift model would index the triple 105 in front
> and the 9 speed xt rear? Inexpensive low end is better for this application.

http://harriscyclery.net/site/page....D=49&SKU=LD2680

The real low end models don't support 9-speed.

Sheldon "Grifters" Brown
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| --Victor Hugo |
+-----------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
http://harriscyclery.com
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

Ryan Cousineau

In article <4091586E.8080908@sheldonbrown.com>,
Sheldon Brown <captbike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:

[flat bars]

> >>You might want to consider GripShift for this application.

> http://harriscyclery.net/site/page....D=49&SKU=LD2680
>
> The real low end models don't support 9-speed.
>
> Sheldon "Grifters" Brown

That should be "Grifteurs", in keeping with the "derailleur" and
"brifteur" conventions.

Frenchifying the language, one word at a time,
--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

rosco

"Bill" <bill@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:G3akc.2254$Xj6.32870@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I want to occasionally put flat bars on my cross bike. 9 speed xt in back
> with Avid Shorty 4 cantilevers. Sugino 26/36/46 triple w/105 derailleur in
> front. Which Shimano shifter/levers will work with the Shortys? Will I
have
> to go to a separate lever and shifter set? Will I have to change my front
> derailleur?
>
> My hope is I can set up the bar with stem attached and then to change all
I
> have to do is attach the stem thread and adjust the cables and roll out
the
> door. Thanks,
> Bill
>
>

Nashbar has some Dia Compe cantilever brake levers pretty cheap ($14.95).
See http://tinyurl.com/3avl4. I've been using a similar Dia Compe set w/
cantilever brakes, and they work just fine.

Da Vinci tandems also makes some nice cable splitters if you decide to go
that route (http://www.davincitandems.com/comp.html#split).