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Info needed on Paramount Frame

 
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Old 26-04.-2004, 03:59 AM   #1
Jeff & Jane
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Default Info needed on Paramount Frame

I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
about this frame.
Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
help.

Thanks
Jeff


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Old 26-04.-2004, 05:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame


"Jeff & Jane" <we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
> It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
> assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made

of
> Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
> about this frame.
> Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be

great
> help.
>

Go here:

http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2004/...mount/index.php


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Old 26-04.-2004, 06:16 AM   #3
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame


"Jeff & Jane" wrote:
> The BB has a 68 imprinted on it which I
> assume means the BB diameter.


That's the BB width (68mm). It's probably English thread.

Art Harris


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Old 26-04.-2004, 07:14 AM   #4
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame

On 04/25/2004 12:59 PM, in article
0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net, "Jeff & Jane"
<we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote:

> I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
> It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
> assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
> Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
> about this frame.
> Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
> help.



Late 1980s or early 1990s Japanese-built (rather than Waterford-built).


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Old 26-04.-2004, 07:33 AM   #5
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame

Hi Jeff, just send this same letter to Richard Schwinn at Waterford
Bikes. I'm sure he can help you with your questions, Mark

"Jeff & Jane" <we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
> I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
> It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
> assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
> Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
> about this frame.
> Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
> help.
>
> Thanks
> Jeff

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Old 26-04.-2004, 08:08 AM   #6
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame

If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
"REAL" Paramount. It was made in Japan or Taiwan after the Paramount
Design Group broke off from Schwinn, and started making bikes in
Waterford Wis. Strangly, the bikes are named "Waterford".
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Old 26-04.-2004, 09:07 AM   #7
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame

RDKILL53@HOTMAIL.COM (Bill K.) writes:

> If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
> "REAL" Paramount. It was made in Japan or Taiwan after the Paramount
> Design Group broke off from Schwinn, and started making bikes in
> Waterford Wis. Strangly, the bikes are named "Waterford".


Nothing strange there. The "Paramount" name is owned by the Schwinn
Company, hence the fact that Richard Schwinn's own company is called
Waterford Precision Bicycles. He can't use the Schwinn trademarks
like his own name, the "Paramount," "World," etc. names. Welcome to
US trademark law.

Your history is a little inaccurate, BTW. This group didn't "break
off" from Schwinn. The sale of the Schwinn company- to Scott? Or was
there someone in between?- specifically did not include the Waterford
facility.
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Old 26-04.-2004, 09:27 AM   #8
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"Jeff & Jane" <we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
> I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
> It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
> assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
> Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
> about this frame.
> Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
> help.


The frame was probably made in 1992. Schwinn imported these frames
for a while. I have one and really like it.

A good place to check out Paramount history is at:
http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2004/...mount/index.php

Dick Durbin
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Old 26-04.-2004, 11:55 AM   #9
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Default Re: Info needed on Paramount Frame

> On 04/25/2004 12:59 PM, in article
> 0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net, "Jeff & Jane"
> <we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote:
>>I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
>>It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
>>assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
>>Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
>>about this frame.
>>Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
>>help.


Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> Late 1980s or early 1990s Japanese-built (rather than Waterford-built).


Not necessarily a bad thing. Those were built in the
Panasonic PICS/POS department and are at the same quality
level as the US versions. Nice paint, too.

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Old 26-04.-2004, 07:31 PM   #10
Keith Rhoades
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"Jeff & Jane" <we.xcski@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<0UTic.39927$G_.31896@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
> I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
> It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
> assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
> Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
> about this frame.
> Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
> help.
>
> Thanks
> Jeff


I have a Paramount series frame and I like it a lot. Here some info I
have: frame wt. 4.9 lbs, Tange 188 fork wt. 1.5 lbs, seatpost dia.
27.2mm. The frame I have came with 126mm rear spacing. As for angle
I'll have to look up an old Bicycle mag. that had the specs. and I'll
Email them to you in a day or so.
One thing about the frame, I had some rust on the bottom of the down
tube @ the at the upper lug it appeared as bubbled paint and I have
noticed this on a few frames.
FYI decals for this frame are not available but Waterford will sell
you some Paramount decals. Don't worry what people say about the frame
being from Japan it still a nice riding bike good luck.

Keith Rhoades
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Old 03-05.-2004, 09:01 AM   #11
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RDKILL53@HOTMAIL.COM (Bill K.) wrote in message news:<599ccdc5.0404251508.6970806c@posting.google.com>...
> If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
> "REAL" Paramount.


That's "Pretendamount". It's OK though. Mine is 12 years old and
will get a new paint job this year to extend its years of service.
The $125 I paid for this frame third-hand is the best money I ever
spent on bicycling equipment.

Dick Durbin
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