Who makes how many jerseys?

Dave

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the rider's team (main) logo is on the jersey.
So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new
jersey for each day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling
on a new yellow over an existng one on consecutive stages
(previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one year a
stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took
the one off the top to give to Lance for that day.

2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do
the tour organizers do it?

3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of the permutations of riders, number of
days, teams etc so they don't run out if some
unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
times (I think) 21 teams, times (on an average year) 21
stages adds up to a heck of a lot of clothing that can
go unused) This does not even go into worrying about
the right size for riders.

4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just
wondering if anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

Tm

"Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
> green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> new jersey for
each
> day?

Yes.

>
> 2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike.

>
> 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
> possibility of the

They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.

>
> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
>

There are none.

> Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just
> wondering if anyone knew these logistics....
>
> Dave

Vern

"Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> So I've always wondered this....

> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> new jersey for
each
> day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
> over an existng
one
> on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
> think I saw one year a stack of yellow's in the back of a
> truck where they took the one
off
> the top to give to Lance for that day.

The podium jersey is just for the cameras, so yes if the
rider of the stage is in yellow he will be given another
jellow jersey to put on. You'll also see a big (stick on)
logo of the riders team sponsor that isn't on the true race
day jersey. Again for the sponsor billboard. I don't think
you would want to ride with the podium jersey on, it's made
very big to fit any possible rider size and would catch a
ton on wind. For the rider the next day they have a bunch of
jerseys in all sizes (just like you see advertised for us
mortals to buy (for a price).

Jonathan V.D. S

"Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> schreef in bericht
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> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
> green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> new jersey for
each
> day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
> over an existng
one
> on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
> think I saw one year a stack of yellow's in the back of a
> truck where they took the one
off
> the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each
set contains a long- and a short-sleeved jersey, as well
as a TT suit.

>
> 2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or
> do the tour organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team
sponsors on them, that can be pressed on the jerseys very
quickly. They prepare them before the award ceremony when
it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

>
> 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
> possibility of the permutations of riders, number of
> days, teams etc so they don't run out if some
> unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
> times (I think)
21
> teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a
> heck of a lot of clothing that can go unused) This does
> not even go into worrying about
the
> right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys.
They are in possession of the tour organization until
they are awarded.

>
> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in
different sizes ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's
jerseys come from that stack, so it is clear that the
surplus is sold. Last year, there was footage after every
stage of the winner signing a stack of jerseys and these are
ofcourse even more interesting to sell.

>
> Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just
> wondering if anyone knew these logistics....
>
> Dave

Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if your
questions are answered there, so here you are. Corrections
are welcome ofcourse.

Jonathan.

Carl Sundquist

"Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
> green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> new jersey for
each
> day?

Yes

> 2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike

Are the teams responsible?

No

Or do the tour organizers do it?

Yes.

> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

http://www.madeinsport.com/fr/bouti...PrpMdl=IdPrpMd-
l_02:001§IdPrpMdl_01:044&Univers=letour&Langue=en&Devise=XE-
U&idPtn=letour

Dave

I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech,
but does the job. And some of the other posts mentioned the
podium jersey zipping up the back; I had completely
forgotten abut that.

Dave

"TM" <xyz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:tKxHc.32461$XF5.29100@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
> > When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
> > green, etc, the
> rider's
> > team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
> >
> > 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> > new jersey for
> each
> > day?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > 2) Who makes those jerseys?
>
> Nike.
>
> >
> > 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
> > possibility of
the
>
> They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.
>
> >
> > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
> >
>
> There are none.
>
>
> > Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was
> > just wondering if anyone knew these logistics....
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

Vern

> There was an article about this last year, possibly in the
> NY Times. There is a van that comes along with the tour,
> with a guy who slaps the winner's logos on appropriate-
> colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a supply
> of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in
> different sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos.

Nope just one size fits all.

>Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up the
>back, are the
same as the ones worn the next day
> during the ride,

Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.

> and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
> logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a
> sewing machine.

Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

Vern

its funny how the conversations change when the internet
audio feed dies,

"vern" <vern18544@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:qtyH-
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>
>
>
> >
> > There was an article about this last year, possibly in
> > the NY Times.
There
> > is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who
> > slaps the
winner's
> > logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So
> > I guess he has a supply of plain yellow, green, white
> > and polka-dot jerseys in different sizes, plus a stack
> > of sponsor logos.
>
> Nope just one size fits all.
>
> >Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up
> >the back, are the
> same as the ones worn the next day
> > during the ride,
>
> Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.
>
> > and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
> > logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with
> > a sewing
machine.
>
> Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

Tm

"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:tKxHc.32461$XF5.29100@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
<snip>
>
> > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
referring to the non existant jerseys implied in the
question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey
that was never used and does not exist.

>
>
http://www.madeinsport.com/fr/bouti...PrpMdl=IdPrpMd-
l_02:001§IdPrpMdl_01:044&Univers=letour&Langue=en&Devise=XE-
U&idPtn=letour

Chris

"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <nospam@nospam.nl> wrote in message
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> "Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> schreef in bericht
> news:tKxHc.32461$XF5.29100@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
> > When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
> > green, etc, the
> rider's
> > team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
> >
> > 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
> > new jersey for
> each
> > day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
> > over an existng
> one
> > on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
> > think I saw
one
> > year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where
> > they took the one
> off
> > the top to give to Lance for that day.
>
> They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set
> contains a
long-
> and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.

They only get skinsuits on days they may need them. I do
think they get a long and short sleeve as you indicated
though along with the podium jersey. It is funny because the
winner normally gives jerseys away to team mates,
politicians, etc and never seems to run out. The really
prized jerseys are those that are actually worn in the race
folowed by podium and then jerseys that were not worn. I
would not be surprised at all to find out that the winner
can ask for a few extras for photo ops although I have heard
that the organizers don't want the public to have that
impression so I don't know how they decide which requests
from the winer to honor.

> >
> > 2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible?
> > Or do the tour organizers do it?
>
> The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team
> sponsors on them, that can be pressed on the jerseys very
> quickly. They prepare them before the award ceremony when
> it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.
>
> >
> > 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
> > possibility of
the
> > permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so
> > they don't run out
if
> > some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
> > times (I think)
> 21
> > teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a
> > heck of a lot
of
> > clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into
> > worrying about
> the
> > right size for riders.
>
> The teams do not carry around classification jerseys.
> They are in
possession
> of the tour organization until they are awarded.
>
> >
> > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
>
> You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in
> different sizes ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's
> jerseys come from that stack,
so
> it is clear that the surplus is sold. Last year, there was
> footage after every stage of the winner signing a stack of
> jerseys and these are
ofcourse
> even more interesting to sell.
>
> >
> > Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was
> > just wondering if anyone knew these logistics....
> >
> > Dave
>
> Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if
> your questions are answered there, so here you are.
> Corrections are welcome ofcourse.
>
> Jonathan.

Chris

"Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech,
> but does the job. And some of the other posts mentioned
> the podium jersey zipping up
the
> back; I had completely forgotten abut that.
>
> Dave

I do think there are more than one per day and that there
are "extra" jerseys. Back in the day (so to speak) anyone
outside of what was considered the "normal" size range for a
"Euro-dog" had to put up with a jersey that did not fit.
These days, I have not seen a poorly fitting jersey in many
years and the ranges of riders these days is far more than
ever before. That is strong evidence to me that there are
plenty of extra sizes. They always have a full Tour's worth
for the favorite riders and then they have the extras. I
remember one year Stephen Roche had to wear a massively over-
sized jersey that was tamed with safety pins. It neded up OK
in photos if you did not know what to look for. Back then,
the jerseys typically went down a bit further anyway and the
bottom would often sit just above the peak of the rider's
buttocks. Look at most of today's riders and the jersey
normally ends just a few inches below the waist and most of
the riders have similar fitting jerseys. I see more variety
in short lengths but that seems to involve preference more
so than jerseys do (which is surprising to me but I am only
observing here).

Chris

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>
> "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in
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> >
> > "Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:tKxHc.32461$XF5.29100@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > > So I've always wondered this....
> > >
> <snip>
> >
> > > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
>
> Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
> referring to the non existant jerseys implied in the
> question.
>
> For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey
> that was never used and does not exist.

Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use
as he pleases. I doubt he actually "turned it away". He
likely got it but did not use it. He will give that one to
someone he owes a favor to...

>
>
>
> >
> >
>
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l_02:001§IdPrpMdl
_01:044&Univers=letour&Langue=en&Devise=XEU&idPtn=letour
> >
>

Tm

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> "TM" <xyz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in
> > message news:10etbjp4stnvh79@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > > "Dave" <themailbox@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:tKxHc.32461$XF5.29100@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > > > So I've always wondered this....
> > > >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
> >
> > Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
> > referring to the
non
> > existant jerseys implied in the question.
> >
> > For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow
> > jersey that was never used and does not exist.
>
> Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use
> as he pleases.
I
> doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but
> did not use it.
He
> will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...
>

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for
the winner of the prologue. The op assumed that they made a
yellow jersey for every team for every stage.

Dan Connelly

TM wrote:

> I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but
> for the winner of the prologue. The op assumed that they
> made a yellow jersey for every team for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least get
a T-shirt or something.

Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour... Back: ... and all I
got was this lousy T-shirt.