Disc brake

David Hoy

Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but
not as well as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking out
the pads and sanded the top of them any access oil and dirt,
and then put it back on again. They were the same , can
anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with them and
the disc to make them work any better.

Thanks alot .

Ride-A-Lot

David Hoy wrote:
> Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but
> not as well as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking
> out the pads and sanded the top of them any access oil and
> dirt, and then put it back on again. They were the same ,
> can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with
> them and the disc to make them work any better.
>
> Thanks alot .

1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and
either hydraulic or mechanical.

2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your bar?

3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different type of
brake in the front and rear?

4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?

5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?

6. How old are the pads?

Jim

"David Hoy" <david.hoy37@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:eOaHc.97$Dk4.54@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but
> not as well as
it
> should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and
> sanded the top of them any access oil and dirt, and then
> put it back on again. They were the same , can anyone give
> me any advice what to clean or do with them and the disc
> to make them work any better.
>
> Thanks alot .
>
>

Need more info. What brand? Are your brake pads broken in?
Did the brakes work better before? Was your pads
contaminated with oil?

I've never cleaned my pads or rotors. I only had to replace
the pads as they wore out and only dealth with loss of power
as the new pads were being broken in.

Hoy Family

1. Its mechanical , cable
2. No it dosent
3. It has a V brake on the back .
4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats
why I sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil. They
are a light sand colour.
6. They are about 2 years old id say but they look fine
loads of pad on them. "Ride-A-Lot" <Sir.Ride-a-
LotNOSPAM@careercenter.com> wrote in message news:2oKdnUE6fYf3s3DdRVn-
sQ@speakeasy.net...
>
>
>
> David Hoy wrote:
> > Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works
> > but not as well as it should work in my opinion, Ive
> > taking out the pads and sanded the top of them any
> > access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again. They
> > were the same , can anyone give me any advice what to
> > clean or do with them and the disc to make them work any
> > better.
> >
> > Thanks alot .
>
> 1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and
> either hydraulic
or
> mechanical.
>
> 2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your bar?
>
> 3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different type
> of brake in the front and rear?
>
> 4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?
>
> 5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?
>
> 6. How old are the pads?

Hoy Family

All I can say the disc gets very warm because its not
actualy stopping you , you have to sorta hold it in and it
dosent actually stop you completly but just enough to get
round the corner, or use your feet stopping. So it isnt
gripping the disc properly ?

David "Hoy Family" <hoy.family123@ntlworld.com> wrote in
message news:gChHc.805$2f3.314@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> 1. Its mechanical , cable
> 2. No it dosent
> 3. It has a V brake on the back .
> 4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
> 5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats
> why I sanded
the
> top layer of dirt and slight oil. They are a light
> sand colour.
> 6. They are about 2 years old id say but they look fine
> loads of pad on them. "Ride-A-Lot" <Sir.Ride-a-
> LotNOSPAM@careercenter.com> wrote in message news:2oKdnUE6fYf3s3DdRVn-
> sQ@speakeasy.net...
> >
> >
> >
> > David Hoy wrote:
> > > Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works
> > > but not as well as it should work in my opinion, Ive
> > > taking out the pads and sanded the top of them any
> > > access oil and dirt, and then put it back on again.
> > > They were the same , can anyone give me any advice
> > > what to clean or do with them and the disc to make
> > > them work any better.
> > >
> > > Thanks alot .
> >
> > 1. What make and model disc brake? There are many and
> > either hydraulic
> or
> > mechanical.
> >
> > 2. When you pull the brake lever, do you touch your
> > bar?
> >
> > 3. You only have "a brake"? Do you have a different
> > type of brake in
the
> > front and rear?
> >
> > 4. Did you clean the rotor as well as the pads?
> >
> > 5. Did you accidentally spill lube on the pads?
> >
> > 6. How old are the pads?
> >
>

Mark \

> 4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?

The rotor is the disc itself.

> 5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them thats
> why I sanded the top layer of dirt and slight oil.

That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or not)
so need replacing. The disc itself will also be
contaminated, so will need cleaning thoroughly before you
introduce the new pads. Use soapy water followed by rubbing
alcohol to clean the disc.

The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before
the performance comes in full.

Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway... don't
feel bad about having to replace them.

Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil next time.

HTH

--
Mark

Hoy Family

Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be that bad , just a
matter of sanding it over the pad and it would work again . What price would
u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads.
"Mark (UK)" <mstroftong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2l5kp5F8v090U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > 4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
>
> The rotor is the disc itself.
>
> > 5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them
> > thats why I sanded the top layer of dirt and slight
> > oil.
>
> That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or
> not) so need replacing. The disc itself will also be
> contaminated, so will need
cleaning
> thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy
> water followed by rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.
>
> The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before
> the performance comes in full.
>
> Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway...
> don't feel bad about having to replace them.
>
> Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil
> next time.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Mark

Ride-A-Lot

Hoy Family wrote:
> Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be
> that bad , just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it
> would work again . What price would u think it will cost
> for a decent pair of pads. "Mark (UK)"
> <mstroftong@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2l5kp5F8v090U1@uni-
> berlin.de...
>
>>>4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
>>
>>The rotor is the disc itself.
>>
>>
>>>5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them
>>> thats why I sanded the top layer of dirt and slight
>>> oil.
>>
>>That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or
>>not) so need replacing. The disc itself will also be
>>contaminated, so will need
>
> cleaning
>
>>thoroughly before you introduce the new pads. Use soapy
>>water followed by rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.
>>
>>The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before
>>the performance comes in full.
>>
>>Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway...
>>don't feel bad about having to replace them.
>>
>>Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil
>>next time.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>--
>>Mark
>>
>>
>
>
>

You need to get pads for the model of you disc brakes.
Pads are specific to the manufacturer and run from
US$12 to US$25.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o www.schnauzers.ws

Zeeexsixare

Hoy Family wrote:
> Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be
> that bad , just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it
> would work again . What price would u think it will cost
> for a decent pair of pads.

Before you buy new ones, place your old ones on the stove
(the metal-coil range is good) until the oil in the pad
burns off. It should work as good as new.

I did this on my grease-contaminated pads and now they're on
the too-strong side...

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Mark \

> "Mark (UK)" <mstroftong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2l5kp5F8v090U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>> 4. What is the rotar can you get a picture ?
>>
>> The rotor is the disc itself.
>>
>>> 5. Yeh when oiling the hubs I got some oil over them
>>> thats why I sanded the top layer of dirt and slight
>>> oil.
>>
>> That's the answer then. The pads are ruined (sanded or
>> not) so need replacing. The disc itself will also be
>> contaminated, so will need cleaning thoroughly before you
>> introduce the new pads. Use soapy water followed by
>> rubbing alcohol to clean the disc.
>>
>> The new pads will need breaking in for a few hours before
>> the performance comes in full.
>>
>> Two years off one set of pads isn't too bad anyway...
>> don't feel bad about having to replace them.
>>
>> Be sure to protect the brakes from grease and oil
>> next time.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Mark

Hoy Family wrote:
> Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be
> that bad , just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it
> would work again . What price would u think it will cost
> for a decent pair of pads.

Looks as though you might be in the UK (ntlworld). Take a
look at chain reaction to get an idea of replacement pad
prices, you won't find them much cheaper elsewhere.

<http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...s.asp?category-
=Brake+Pads&thumb nails=true>

You'll need to look for an exact make/model match to the
disc brakes on your bike (or at least the Fibrax equivelent
copy; few £ cheaper). If in doubt take the bike down to a
shop and ask for advice.

I think you'll find the pad swap simple, it will take longer
to give that rotor a good clean!
--
Mark

Creeper

Try squirting water on the pads while ridin.. its not as
hard as it sounds and use alot of water to break them
in.. it works

David Hoy wrote:
> Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works but
> not as well as it should work in my opinion, Ive taking
> out the pads and sanded the top of them any access oil and
> dirt, and then put it back on again. They were the same ,
> can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do with
> them and the disc to make them work any better.
>
> Thanks alot .

Shaun Rimmer

"Hoy Family" <hoy.family123@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:g8iHc.830$2f3.272@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> Ahh cheers never thought getting oil near them would be
> that bad , just a matter of sanding it over the pad and it
> would work again . What price
would
> u think it will cost for a decent pair of pads. "Mark
> (UK)" <mstroftong@hotmail.com> wrote in message

(People here prefer you answer below the text you quote, or
answer below each point you are tackling, by the way - just
trying to help!)

',;~}~

OK, you *MAY* not need new pads - as someone else said,
scrub the rotor (disc) real clean - wire wool or a green
scrubbing pad and dishwashing liquid work well for me.

Next, you can heat those pads up some, which will burn most
of the oil off/out - don't go too hot, though, or you may
break the bond between metal and friction material. Just
heat 'em until they start smoking a little.

Next, put it all back together, and smear the disc with wet
mud - fine, silty mud with no big stones. Now, ride and
brake - repeat until performance is returned.

The mud helps bed things all back in again, and also helps
draw out any remaining oily crap from the pads.

Hope that helps!

Shaun aRe

Hoy Family

Ok i put the pads in the oven , and let them sit for a while
took them out rubbed a paper towel on both of them put thm
all back in and they are basically the same , So I have
"Chilli 550" Forks, which came from a Barracuda Slalom , the
disc brakes has a name called Quad amd 3 or omd 3 im not
sure. They are yellow

Can anyone tell me where I can get info one these forks and
maybe buying new pads. "Creeper" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:0e-dnQWmFLX0sXPdRVn-tw@adelphia.com...
> Try squirting water on the pads while ridin.. its not as
> hard as it sounds and use alot of water to break them in..
> it works
>
>
>
>
> David Hoy wrote:
> > Hi I have a disc brake on my mountain bike , it works
> > but not as well as
it
> > should work in my opinion, Ive taking out the pads and
> > sanded the top of them any access oil and dirt, and then
> > put it back on again. They were
the
> > same , can anyone give me any advice what to clean or do
> > with them and
the
> > disc to make them work any better.
> >
> > Thanks alot .
> >

Bomba

Hoy Family wrote:

> Ok i put the pads in the oven , and let them sit for a
> while took them out rubbed a paper towel on both of them
> put thm all back in and they are basically the same , So I
> have "Chilli 550" Forks, which came from a Barracuda
> Slalom , the disc brakes has a name called Quad amd 3 or
> omd 3 im not sure. They are yellow

Ah, I think we've found your problem.

The problem you have is that you have crap brakes. No amount
of baking, rubbing mud on them or divine brake dancing will
make them work well.