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Do some bike races use racecar tracks?

 
 
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Old 08-07.-2004, 06:33 PM   #1
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Default Do some bike races use racecar tracks?

Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses such
race tracks, why not?

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Old 08-07.-2004, 09:30 PM   #2
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There was a race held at the Mosport track, here in Ontario,
Canada, back in April. The track itself is about 4km and,
depending on what category you were in (Novice, Junior,
Masters Fatty, etc.) the race consisted of doing anywhere
from 4 to 33 laps.

For more info see http://www.bikecrazie.com/mosport2004/

J. Spaceman

Scott T. Jensen wrote:

> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?
>
> Scott Jensen

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Old 08-07.-2004, 09:47 PM   #3
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Default Re: Do some bike races use racecar tracks?

laguna seca... 100k... infinion... ???... i wasnt there

the best race at a track was the road america stage of
superweek... 100 miles... that track is a good track for a
bike race... it ends up being very selective after 100
miles... unlike laguna seca which is hard right away... they
havent had a race at road america for a while...

Jason Spaceman wrote:
> There was a race held at the Mosport track, here in
> Ontario, Canada, back in April. The track itself is about
> 4km and, depending on what category you were in (Novice,
> Junior, Masters Fatty, etc.) the race consisted of doing
> anywhere from 4 to 33 laps.
>
> For more info see http://www.bikecrazie.com/mosport2004/
>
>
>
> J. Spaceman
>
>
>
> Scott T. Jensen wrote:
>
>
>>Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
>>racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
>>miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
>>such race tracks, why not?
>>
>>Scott Jensen
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 10:15 PM   #4
Wade Summers
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Limerock in Lakeville CT. 1.5 mile track. Used twice this
year, once as a stage in the Tour of Connecticut. Have to
say in the rain the track was super slick - all the oil and
rubber in the track. They also have held mtb races there on
the grounds (fields & woods) around the track. Years ago
there was a criterium on the Stafford Speedway, Stafford CT.
Pocono in PA. I'm sure there are many others.

Wade

"erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
news:qhbHc.29830$6e7.27840@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> laguna seca... 100k... infinion... ???... i wasnt there
>
> the best race at a track was the road america stage of
> superweek... 100 miles... that track is a good track for a
> bike race... it ends up being very selective after 100
> miles... unlike laguna seca which is hard right away...
> they havent had a race at road america for a while...
>
> Jason Spaceman wrote:
> > There was a race held at the Mosport track, here in
> > Ontario, Canada,
back in April.
> > The track itself is about 4km and, depending on what
> > category you were
in (Novice,
> > Junior, Masters Fatty, etc.) the race consisted of doing
> > anywhere from 4
to 33 laps.
> >
> > For more info see http://www.bikecrazie.com/mosport2004/
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Spaceman
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott T. Jensen wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> >>racecars? If so,
which
> >>races use them and how many miles/kilometers are these
> >>races? If no
bike
> >>race uses such race tracks, why not?
> >>
> >>Scott Jensen
> >
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 11:02 PM   #5
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Scott T. Jensen <stj@charter.net> wrote:

> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?

IIRC, some years ago the world championships used the Zolder
race track in Belgium. Also, didn't the Tour use a section
of Spa-Francorchamps on some stage a year or two ago?

I'd love to ride the old, long Nürburgring (the
Nordschleife). It's gorgeous, twisty and hilly 23
kilometres.

-as
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 11:30 PM   #6
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"Scott T. Jensen" <stj@supernews.com>...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?

Yes -- in N. California Laguna Seca (Monterey) and Infineon
Raceway (Sears Point in Sonoma) are used.

They are hilly, twisty road courses of about 2.5 miles per
lap.

-Ken
>
> Scott Jensen
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 12:46 AM   #7
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On 8 Jul 2004 13:55:00 GMT, Antti Salonen wrote:
> IIRC, some years ago the world championships used the
> Zolder race track

Yes, 2002, Mario Cipollini.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2002/worlds02/?id=emr

>I'd love to ride the old, long Nürburgring (the
>Nordschleife). It's gorgeous, twisty and hilly 23
>kilometres.

World champs 1966, Rudi Altig. http://www.pro-
steilstrecke.de/images/Programmhefte/1966_Rad.jpg

According to Google, it is still used for cycling,
nurburgring.de even lists record times on the bike
("Rennrad"). Big event: "Rad am Ring". Other event: http://-
foto.nurburgring.de/web/2003/030824_e/030824_e_101.jpg
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 01:30 AM   #8
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"Scott T. Jensen" <stj@charter.net> wrote in message news:<10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com>...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?
>
> Scott Jensen

There used to be (may still be) a weekday training race in
NC somewhere. On the weekend, the cost of renting a track is
most likely too great. But maybe there's track owner with a
soft-heart for guys who shave their legs and/or women who
don't shave their pits.
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 01:46 AM   #9
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"Scott T. Jensen" <stj@charter.net> wrote in message
news:10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?

A typical road races course for cars makes an excellent
course for a road race circuit. The Tour has used them as
finishing circuits before (where Alcala won a road stage)
and so has the World's Road Race (several times). Actually
they are perfect for an important race like the World's or
Olympics Road RAce that must travel. Circuits races are not
really popular anywhere though. The US likes smaller courses
where the Europeans favor open roads that have an impressive
distance apart. The US trend developed because of the
difficulty in getting road closures (permits and security)
and in getting the fans interested in racing by having the
race swoop by every few minutes. At an average speed of 2
minutes per mile or less, those circuits are probably not at
exciting to watch as you imagine although I would love
it.

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Old 09-07.-2004, 02:10 AM   #10
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"Scott T. Jensen" <stj@charter.net> wrote in message news:<10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com>...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?
>
> Scott Jensen

Sea Otter Classic used Laguna Seca (near Monterey, CA) track
for parts of stages and one entire stage.
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 02:45 AM   #11
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In article <10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com>,
stj@charter.net says...
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>Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
>racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
>miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses such
>race tracks, why not?

I'm pretty sure there was a race at lime rock CT a while
back. Don't recall any of the details.
------------
Alex
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 02:45 AM   #12
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"Scott T. Jensen" <stj@charter.net> wrote in message
news:10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?
>
> Scott Jensen
>

Races were held at the Bristol (TN) Motor Speedway back in
the early to mid-90's. 'Not the most exciting crit in the
world, as they ran on the apron of the track. There was
nothing prohibiting running on the 36 degree banking, but it
certainly wasn't the fast way around the course.
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 03:17 AM   #13
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In article <10eq4hah5apc462@corp.supernews.com>,
stj@charter.net says...
> Do some bike races use asphalt race tracks used by
> racecars? If so, which races use them and how many
> miles/kilometers are these races? If no bike race uses
> such race tracks, why not?

In the UK, the 1972 World Championships used Oulton Park,
Leicestershire (satill used for motorbike racing) as the start-
finish of the circuit, and the 1982 ones used the old
circuit at Goodwood although the finish was elsewhere (by
the [horse] racecourse). I think that a pre-war world
championships used the Test Hill at the old banked track at
Brooklands, and I raced in the middle of the now derelict
circuit myself in the 1980s.

The old motor racing circuit at Crystal Palace in London, or
part of it, is also still much used as a crit circuit. There
have also been races at Brands Hatch (a Formula 1 circuit
until recently) and the small circuit at Lydden near Dover.

And I have a feeling that tomorrow's Tour stage does a bit
of the Le Mans circuit as it goes past as well.

Cheers

Roger
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 03:41 AM   #14
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There is a track in New Hampshire, (Loudon I think) that is
used for training races.

I did a stage race at the Poconos speedway in Pennsylvania
once -- a TT and two circuit races on different variations
of the same course.

And a crit at Stafford Springs, Connecticut that Wada
mentioned. It was scheduled for 25 miles but on the
start line it was cut to 5 due to lightning approaching,
and I think the actual event was shorter as they kept
cutting laps.

JT
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 03:46 AM   #15
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:40:48 -0400, Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu>
wrote:

>
>I'm pretty sure there was a race at lime rock CT a while
>back. Don't recall any of the details.

Alex, this year they went head to head with our
Harriman race.

JT
 
 


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