Why Fdjeux.com ?

K. J. Papai

Today's ultra last place in TTT:

145 Matthew Wilson (Aus) Fdjeux.com 3.00 145 Jean-Cyril
Robin (Fra) Fdjeux.com 145 Christophe Mengin (Fra)
Fdjeux.com 145 Frédéric Guesdon (Fra) Fdjeux.com 145
Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Fdjeux.com 145 Carlos Dacruz (Fra)
Fdjeux.com 145 Baden Cooke (Aus) Fdjeux.com 145 Sandy Casar
(Fra) Fdjeux.com

(really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
total stage)

So remind me, what teams were Fdjeux.com taken over?
Who really got screwed? The Navigators would blow these
guys away.

I mean even the "RAGT Whatever" team beat Fdjeux.com by 2
minutes even!

CSC got schooled. By four teams. That was not expected.

-Ken

Vernon

Such short memory: Last years Prologue winner (Bradley
McGee) and Green jersey (Baden Cooke). And team leader
Bradley McGee in the Tour of Romandie, where he won the
prologue and finised 9th gc. and was second in the time
trial behind Tyler Hamilton.

"K. J. Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message
news:6100cab2.0407070858.2d8a39b5@posting.google.com...
> Today's ultra last place in TTT:
>
> 145 Matthew Wilson (Aus) Fdjeux.com 3.00 145 Jean-Cyril
> Robin (Fra) Fdjeux.com 145 Christophe Mengin (Fra)
> Fdjeux.com 145 Frédéric Guesdon (Fra) Fdjeux.com 145
> Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Fdjeux.com 145 Carlos Dacruz (Fra)
> Fdjeux.com 145 Baden Cooke (Aus) Fdjeux.com 145 Sandy
> Casar (Fra) Fdjeux.com
>
> (really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
> total stage)
>
> So remind me, what teams were Fdjeux.com taken over?
> Who really got screwed? The Navigators would blow these
> guys away.
>
> I mean even the "RAGT Whatever" team beat Fdjeux.com by 2
> minutes even!
>
> CSC got schooled. By four teams. That was not expected.
>
> -Ken

David Off

K. J. Papai wrote:

> (really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
> total stage)

it is called 'tactics' they don't have anyone in contention
for overall so why kill themselves?

Vernon

exactly... beyond what the media may have you think, some
teams are there for goals other than Yellow. They are
defending the Green jersey. TTT doesn't factor into that.
Look who they have, obviously they built their team around
the Green. And with the lousy weather today they cleared the
course and cut their losses.... their time is the next few
days and in Champs finish.

"David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
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> K. J. Papai wrote:
>
> > (really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
> > total stage)
>
> it is called 'tactics' they don't have anyone in
> contention for overall so why kill themselves?

Bart Van Hooreb

Yeah right they should go full blast and drop the suffering
McGee from the start. Finishing 4.30 minutes faster would
really have been helpful of course. Duh.

Chris

"Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <bart@none.be> wrote in message
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> Yeah right they should go full blast and drop the
> suffering McGee from the start. Finishing 4.30 minutes
> faster would really have been helpful of course.
Duh.

Be caeful Bart, once you start talking to him your time
spent here can get frustrating.

Tom Hunter

ken@kenpapai.com (K. J. Papai) wrote:

(really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
total stage)

I don't have a huge problem with these new TTT rules,
really. I would modify them to give dropped team riders
their team's time plus the amount of time between them.

But, if they're gonna implement screwy rules, why not give a
little stick to go with the carrot, keep everyone moving
along. For example:

For the last place team in the TTT, for all team riders--

Should that last-placed TTT team have a subsequent victory
ride in the Tour, the winning rider will be relegated one
placing and given same time as the 2nd place rider. You can
bet that Baden Cooke would have been kicking some asses
through the rain to make sure he wouldn't possibly have a
sprint win negated.

Is this fair? Strictly, no. But is it fair to give a team
that finished a minute and 10 seconds down only a 30
second loss?

Richard Adams

David Off wrote:

> K. J. Papai wrote:
>
>> (really they were all 7 mins 33 seconds in a 73 minute
>> total stage)
>
>
> it is called 'tactics' they don't have anyone in
> contention for overall so why kill themselves?

Also, let McGee and Cooke rest up. That's what all the
chatter was about, how this scheme doesn't punish a lazy
team. Ride the pace McGee can do comfortably and see if he
gets better. He's had a back problem since before the tour.
Something about planting olive trees.

patch70

Recent results for fdjeux.com:
Overall victory in Route du Sud to Brad McGee
Stage 3 in RdS to Brad McGee
Stage 2 in RdS to Francis Mourey
8th overall in Giro to Brad McGee
McGee also won the prologue and got three 2nd places in the Giro
Baden Cooke won the Jayco Bay Series (a stage & overall)
Cooke won final stage Tour Down Under, 3rd overall
Cooke won 2 stages of the Tour Med, the Grand Prix La Marseillaise and a stage in 3 days of De Panne
Thomas Lövkvist won the overall and a stage in Circut de la Sarthe
Oh and there is also the Green Jersey overall, the prologue and Stage 2 of last year's tour.

Now, how about those Navigators?