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Boonen: Meathead

 
 
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Old 06-07.-2004, 01:16 AM   #1
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Looks like Boonen caused the crash today. What was he doing
going into the group then flaring out again almost
immediately?
 
Old 06-07.-2004, 01:30 AM   #2
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:11:52 GMT, chiefhiawatha wrote:
>Looks like Boonen caused the crash today. What was he doing
>going into the group then flaring out again almost
>immediately?

He was looking at his chain, and shifting. He veered out
because he wasn't paying attention, Kirsipuu gave way, which
took out Arvesen.
 
Old 06-07.-2004, 07:16 PM   #3
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:11:52 GMT, chiefhiawatha wrote:
>> Looks like Boonen caused the crash today. What was he
>> doing going into the group then flaring out again almost
>> immediately?
>
> He was looking at his chain, and shifting. He veered out
> because he wasn't paying attention, Kirsipuu gave way,
> which took out Arvesen.

In this morning's L'Equipe, Boonen says (my translation):
"I'm pissed. The team fought for 40km to get me in the right
position and 300m from the line my chain slipped, just like
the day before at Charleroi. I was lying in wait on Hondo's
wheel and when I saw McEwen dive to the inside I wanted to
follow. And it was there that everything went bad. I don't
understand
it. I've never had this kind of problem before and our
mechanics, who are tops, spent all night trying to track
it down. I have a new frame but I tested it at Ster
Elektrotoer and there I was taking the sprints. I'm
really, really, disappointed."
 
Old 07-07.-2004, 01:02 PM   #4
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Default Re: Boonen: Meathead

Is Boonen really THAT fast? He talks like he's destined to
be the next Cipo. I know he's won 11-13 races so far this
year but who has he really beaten? Has he ever won a field
sprint with Petacchi, Zabel, Cipo, McEwen still there at the
end? I admit I'm still holding a grudge about him leaving
USPS but I just don't see the fuss yet. Hook a brotha up
with an objective opinion.
 
Old 07-07.-2004, 06:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: Boonen: Meathead

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Wingate
Is Boonen really THAT fast? He talks like he's destined to
be the next Cipo. I know he's won 11-13 races so far this
year but who has he really beaten? Has he ever won a field
sprint with Petacchi, Zabel, Cipo, McEwen still there at the
end? I admit I'm still holding a grudge about him leaving
USPS but I just don't see the fuss yet. Hook a brotha up
with an objective opinion.


He has beaten all of them, except for Petacchi, against whom he didn't sprint prior to this Tour, so yes he's fast enough to win a field sprint in the Tour, but a lot of riders are fast enough

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Old 07-07.-2004, 08:15 PM   #6
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 20:46:06 -0700, Steve Wingate
<s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote:

>Is Boonen really THAT fast? He talks like he's destined
>to be the next Cipo. I know he's won 11-13 races so far
>this year but who has he really beaten? Has he ever won a
>field sprint with Petacchi, Zabel, Cipo, McEwen still
>there at the end?
Have any of those guys beaten all the other guys at once at
the end of a race this year?

Boonen has taken McEwen a few times for sure. He's not crazy-
fast like Petacchi perhaps, but he's super fit fast and can
get over the hills well. I think he's the next Zabel, not
the next Cipo.

JT
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 01:49 AM   #7
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nferyn <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<yoPGc.66167$nV4.4576@fe34.usenetserver.com>...
> Steve Wingate wrote:
> > Is Boonen really THAT fast? He talks like he's
> > destined to be the next Cipo. I know he's won 11-13
> > races so far this year but who has he really beaten?
> > Has he ever won a field sprint with Petacchi, Zabel,
> > Cipo, McEwen still there at the end? I admit I'm still
> > holding a grudge about him leaving USPS but I just
> > don't see the fuss yet. Hook a brotha up with an
> > objective opinion.
>
>
>
> He has beaten all of them, except for Petacchi, against
> whom he didn't sprint prior to this Tour

They competed in the Vuelta 2003

Kenny
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 01:49 AM   #8
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Steve Wingate <s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.07.07.03.46.05.722406@pobox.com>...
> Is Boonen really THAT fast? He talks like he's destined to
> be the next Cipo. I know he's won 11-13 races so far this
> year but who has he really beaten? Has he ever won a field
> sprint with Petacchi, Zabel, Cipo, McEwen still there at
> the end? I admit I'm still holding a grudge about him
> leaving USPS but I just don't see the fuss yet. Hook a
> brotha up with an objective opinion.

And he did even more than only winning bunch sprints.

Kenny
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 02:09 AM   #9
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"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2kvbkmF69ndnU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:11:52 GMT, chiefhiawatha wrote:
> >> Looks like Boonen caused the crash today. What was he
> >> doing going into the group then flaring out again
> >> almost immediately?
> >
> > He was looking at his chain, and shifting. He veered out
> > because he wasn't paying attention, Kirsipuu gave way,
> > which took out Arvesen.
>
> In this morning's L'Equipe, Boonen says (my translation):
> "I'm pissed. The team fought for 40km to get me in the
> right position and 300m from the line my chain slipped,
> just like the day before at Charleroi. I was lying in wait
> on Hondo's wheel and when I saw McEwen dive to the inside
> I wanted to follow. And it was there that everything went
> bad. I don't understand
> it. I've never had this kind of problem before and our
> mechanics, who are tops, spent all night trying to
> track it down. I have a new frame but I tested it at
> Ster Elektrotoer and there I was taking the sprints.
> I'm really, really, disappointed."

The reason of his faillure are his carbon magnivelles. Looks
like they are not able to resist to the power he puts on
them when he accelerates. Read today he pushes around 2000
watt during the sprint.

Kenny
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 02:09 AM   #10
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"Kenny" <gelei2001@hotmail.com> schreef >
> The reason of his faillure are his carbon magnivelles.
> Looks like they are not able to resist to the power he
> puts on them when he accelerates. Read today he pushes
> around 2000 watt during the sprint.
>

The cranks were the factor, but maybe he should consider his
shifting technique while implementing those galactic powers
you ascribe him, instead of that bragging "I've got nothing
to learn anymore".
 
Old 08-07.-2004, 06:33 PM   #11
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Kenny wrote:
>> The reason of his faillure are his carbon magnivelles.
>> Looks like they are not able to resist to the power he
>> puts on them when he accelerates. Read today he pushes
>> around 2000 watt during the sprint.

Bart Van Hoorebeeck wrote:
> The cranks were the factor, but maybe he should consider
> his shifting technique while implementing those galactic
> powers you ascribe him, instead of that bragging "I've got
> nothing to learn anymore".

Or try out one of those Campag electronic shifting
prototypes.
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 02:10 AM   #12
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Donald Munro <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.07.08.09.07.45.361361@privacy.net>...
> Kenny wrote:
> >> The reason of his faillure are his carbon magnivelles.
> >> Looks like they are not able to resist to the power he
> >> puts on them when he accelerates. Read today he pushes
> >> around 2000 watt during the sprint.
>
> Bart Van Hoorebeeck wrote:
> > The cranks were the factor, but maybe he should consider
> > his shifting technique while implementing those galactic
> > powers you ascribe him, instead of that bragging "I've
> > got nothing to learn anymore".
>
> Or try out one of those Campag electronic shifting
> prototypes.

Do you mean the Mavic Mechtronics? I heard that shimano
and campy were testing, but haven't seen anything in the
news about it.
 
Old 09-07.-2004, 11:31 AM   #13
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In article <c3559fe7.0407080850.5c7af86c@posting.google.com>,
berchotto@yahoo.com (otto) wrote:

> Donald Munro <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:<pan.2004.07.08.09.07.45.361361@privacy.net>...
> > Kenny wrote:
> > >> The reason of his faillure are his carbon
> > >> magnivelles. Looks like they are not able to resist
> > >> to the power he puts on them when he accelerates.
> > >> Read today he pushes around 2000 watt during the
> > >> sprint.
> >
> > Bart Van Hoorebeeck wrote:
> > > The cranks were the factor, but maybe he should
> > > consider his shifting technique while implementing
> > > those galactic powers you ascribe him, instead of that
> > > bragging "I've got nothing to learn anymore".
> >
> > Or try out one of those Campag electronic shifting
> > prototypes.
>
> Do you mean the Mavic Mechtronics? I heard that shimano
> and campy were testing, but haven't seen anything in the
> news about it.

Here's some news on the Campy stuff from late last year.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php...2003/features/-
campy_elec

--
tanx, Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
Old 12-07.-2004, 04:03 PM   #14
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Steve Wingate <s.wingate_removethis_@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.07.10.20.31.17.422459@pobox.com>...
> > The reason of his faillure are his carbon magnivelles.
> > Looks like they are not able to resist to the power he
> > puts on them when he accelerates. Read today he pushes
> > around 2000 watt during the sprint.
> >
> Where did you read that?

I read it in the paper "Het Nieuwsblad". I'm looking for a
link to the article but i can't find it. Maybe Bart can back
me up on this.
 
 


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