Bit Torrent and T. de F?

S

Hello All,

Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de France
programmes (ideally with Liggett/Sherwen commentary) and
then seeding them as video files available through Bit
Torrent? I've looked at sites like torrents.co.uk and under
"Sport" on http://www.suprnova.org/ and haven't been able to
find anything.

Best regards, and thanks for any pointers,

Steve Pells Edinburgh, UK

Sittingduck

s wrote:

> Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de
> France programmes (ideally with Liggett/Sherwen
> commentary) and then seeding them as video files available
> through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
> torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on
> http://www.suprnova.org/ and haven't been able to find
> anything.
>
> Best regards, and thanks for any pointers

I see a bunch of tour de france stuff in newsgroups.

--
7/4/2004
8:52 PM [GMT-8]

Kenny Lee

s wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de
> France programmes (ideally with Liggett/Sherwen
> commentary) and then seeding them as video files available
> through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
> torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on
> http://www.suprnova.org/ and haven't been able to find
> anything.
>
> Best regards, and thanks for any pointers,
>
> Steve Pells Edinburgh, UK
>
>
>
Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment.
About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading
such a huge file would take a lot of time and then to have
it spread all through the P2P networks so as to gather
enough sources for common folks like me to download, at a
decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must
say I'm hard up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not
that hard up. I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a
video web cast of the TDF that has a constant stream of at
least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Kenny Lee

Philip Taylor -

Kenny Lee wrote:

> Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
> equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
> file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
> time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
> networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
> like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
> calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
> next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
> the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
> willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
> TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
> knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would require
a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture
this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and quite
possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data across
the net is not really feasible, never mind the very real
issues of copright violation ...

Philip Taylor

Call Me Bob

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:53:41 GMT, "Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]"
<P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk> wrote:

>> Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
>> equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
>> file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
>> time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
>> networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
>> like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
>> calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
>> next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
>> the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
>> willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
>> TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
>> knows maybe next year.
>
>Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
>about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
>require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to
>capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and
>quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data
>across the net is not really feasible, never mind the very
>real issues of copright violation ...

What he's asking about is entirely practical, it's already
being done for lots of TV broadcast stuff.

There is no need for DVD quality when watching this kind of
coverage, with divX and similar encoding methods the file
sizes are perfectly manageable.

You can currently download all sorts of TV programs, both
the very latest new stuff (such as american shows not yet
aired in UK) and vintage stuff too. P2P networks like Bit
Torrent and, my personal preference, usenet binary groups
work very well.

Granted, the Tour would mean several hours coverage a day so
it would be fairly demanding, but nothing spectacularly
outrageous.

For people who choose this method of delivery it's perfectly
common to download several gigs of data a day. *shrug*
--

"Bob"

'The people have spoken, the bastards'

Email address is spam trapped. To reply directly remove
the beverage.

Chompster

I've recorded the past few TdFs to digital tape, editing out
the commercials.

This year, I'm thinking of going straight to DVD and
skipping the digital tape. Right now, I have stages 1 & 2 on
my HDD taking up 65 gigs in DV format. I'm encoding stage 1
to MPEG2 right now to fit on a single DVD-R. It should take
about 15 hours.

I download DVDs all the time. It's not a big deal if you
have cable modem.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 00:50:21 +0800, Kenny Lee
<Spam@noway.com> wrote:

>Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment.
>About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig file.
>Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of time and
>then to have it spread all through the P2P networks so as
>to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
>download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd
>still be downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes
>around. I must say I'm hard up to watch the TDF on the tube
>but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to
>watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
>stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.
>
>Kenny Lee

S

"Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk> wrote in message
news:b71552db3bcbafdcfd8a5da9b63ec4b0@news.teranews.com...
> Kenny Lee wrote:
>
> > Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
> > equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
> > file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
> > time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
> > networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
> > like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
> > calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
> > next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
> > the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
> > willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
> > TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
> > knows maybe next year.
>
> Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
> about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
> require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to
> capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and
> quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data
> across the net is not really feasible, never mind the very
> real issues of copright violation ...
>
I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
least). Every Euro '04 game for example was made available
the day it was broadcast. A football match is upwards of 90
minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB). How
long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a broadband
connection a reasonably-popular TV programme file of this
size downloads in a few hours-it's finished before you get
up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride themselves
on their technical expertise, find a project beyond them
that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no trouble with.
Perhaps I should have posted on rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

Ken

Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were seeded.

"s" <bloke@place.com> wrote in message
news:<eHiGc.23956$eK2.5490@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> "Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk> wrote
> in message news:b71552db3bcbafdcfd8a5da9b63ec4b0@news.ter-
> anews.com...
> > Kenny Lee wrote:
> >
> > > Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
> > > equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3
> > > gig file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot
> > > of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
> > > networks so as to gather enough sources for common
> > > folks like me to download, at a decent speed, well by
> > > my calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when
> > > the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to
> > > watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up.
> > > I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web
> > > cast of the TDF that has a constant stream of at least
> > > 300k. Who knows maybe next year.
> >
> > Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
> > about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
> > require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs
> > to capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour,
> > and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of
> > data across the net is not really feasible, never mind
> > the very real issues of copright violation ...
> >
> I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
> least). Every Euro '04 game for example was made available
> the day it was broadcast. A football match is upwards of
> 90 minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB).
> How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a
> broadband connection a reasonably-popular TV programme
> file of this size downloads in a few hours-it's finished
> before you get up in the morning.
>
> Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride
> themselves on their technical expertise, find a project
> beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no
> trouble with. Perhaps I should have posted on
> rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> Oh well, maybe next year.
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

S

Yes!

And stage 5 has been seeded as well...

Many thanks to those seeding files!

Cheers

Steve

"Ken" <kchen6@cox.net> wrote in message
news:f2322998.0407081943.132c07f6@posting.google.com...
> Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were
> seeded.
>
>
>
> "s" <bloke@place.com> wrote in message
news:<eHiGc.23956$eK2.5490@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> > "Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk> wrote
> > in message news:b71552db3bcbafdcfd8a5da9b63ec4b0@news.t-
> > eranews.com...
> > > Kenny Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
> > > > equipment. About a
3
> > > > hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading
> > > > such a huge file would take a lot of time and then
> > > > to have it spread all through the
P2P
> > > > networks so as to gather enough sources for common
> > > > folks like me to download, at a decent speed, well
> > > > by my calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF
> > > > when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm
hard
> > > > up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that
> > > > hard up. I'd be
willing
> > > > to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF
> > > > that has a
constant
> > > > stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.
> > >
> > > Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who
> > > asked about the DVD recordings I was making) that it
> > > would require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb
> > > DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport coverage of
> > > le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
> > > that volume of data across the net is not really
> > > feasible, never mind the very real issues of copright
> > > violation ...
> > >
> > I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
> > least). Every
Euro
> > '04 game for example was made available the day it was
> > broadcast. A
football
> > match is upwards of 90 minutes; the files are about a CD
> > in size (~700
MB).
> > How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a
> > broadband
connection a
> > reasonably-popular TV programme file of this size
> > downloads in a few hours-it's finished before you get up
> > in the morning.
> >
> > Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride
> > themselves on their technical expertise, find a project
> > beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have
> > no trouble with. Perhaps I should have posted on
> > rec.bicycles.tech.
> >
> > Oh well, maybe next year.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

Jeff

> And stage 5 has been seeded as well...
>
> Many thanks to those seeding files!
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve

Could someone post a quick note on how to view the torrent?
I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

Thanks, Jeff

Call Me Bob

On 9 Jul 2004 07:55:57 -0700, jthomas@northwestern.edu (Jeff) wrote:

>Could someone post a quick note on how to view the torrent?
>I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate app but
>can't find any info on the Suprnova site.

You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent is
a peer 2 peer type network, you'll need a bt client to
access it. You can then search for what you want, download
and watch/listen/play whatever.

There are many clients available (google is your friend) but
Azureus is popular. It seems they also do an OS X version,
which I think is you Mac lot?

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
--

"Bob"

'The people have spoken, the bastards'

Email address is spam trapped. To reply directly remove
the beverage.

K. J. Papai

Call me Bob <usenet@COFFEEtoomanypenguins.co.uk> wrote in message news:<vqmte0p3cft2of2eh2itim5scgqd0jbup7@4ax.com>...
> On 9 Jul 2004 07:55:57 -0700, jthomas@northwestern.edu
> (Jeff) wrote:
>
>
> >Could someone post a quick note on how to view the
> >torrent? I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate
> >app but can't find any info on the Suprnova site.
>
> You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent
> is a peer 2 peer type network, you'll need a bt client to
> access it. You can then search for what you want, download
> and watch/listen/play whatever.
>
> There are many clients available (google is your friend)
> but Azureus is popular. It seems they also do an OS X
> version, which I think is you Mac lot?
>
> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Really weird geeky stuff, BETTER answered in the dweeb
forums, not RBR:

"BitTorrent is a noncommercial protocol for sharing large
files and filesets. It's super easy to use.
BitTorrentDownloads are started just by clicking on small
.torrent files or hyperlinks. Downloaders get pieces of the
fileset from the original server, and from anyone else who
is downloading. The more people there are downloading the
same thing, the lower the burden on the central server, and
the faster everyone's downloads get, due to sharing with
each other. The more, the merrier!"

Later, Ken (not really a l33t haxxor)

More, "Below is a list of common file types you will
encounter with BitTorrent, and how to handle them. Please be
aware that the best way to identify file types is by their
extension. For example, a file named ReallyCoolStuff.zip
ends in .zip which is a clue that you should open the
program in WinZip, or something equivalent."