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28-05.-2004, 01:30 AM
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water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
A young rider rode all day on a recent well know ride that involves 11,000 feet of climbing over the 103 mile course. The road drank gallons of water. He/She did not drink any Gatorade or other sports drink. By the time the cyclists arrived back down the mountain at, he/she collapsed. Their pulse stopped!
The EMS people were able to get him/her going and in 12 minutes a helicopter was there from Asheville. Twelve minutes later he/she was in Mission Memorial. He/she was in intensive care all night listed as Critical! Thank goodness by the next day he/she was back to normal. The condition was caused by exhausting all of his/her electrolytes. I use a very strong mix of gatorade in one bottle, and sip it with a few gulps of water from the other. On long rides is is usually easier to find water, and a pain to try and carry extra mix. Has anyone ever used this product?? http://www.ultimareplenisher.com/ |
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28-05.-2004, 05:35 AM
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Re: water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
Foxiecharles,
Never heard of this. Do you know what the Osmolality of their formula is? Should be between 200-220, otherwise a solution that is not in this range is marginal at best. Quote:
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28-05.-2004, 05:52 AM
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Anecdotal stories like this don't prove anything. Electrolyte imbalance can be caused by a lot of things related to long-term illness or diet, not just what you drink on the bike. Also, what works for you on a long ride probably isn't right for me.
I like 1/2 strength Gatorade in one bottle, and plain water in the other. The hotter and longer the ride, the more water I drink in proportion. Straight Gatorade is way too salty/sugary for me for the quantities I drink on long rides: it makes me thirsty, plus my sweat is so salty it stings the eyes. Today for 55 miles, had my 20 oz bottle of 1/2-strength Gatorade, a 22 oz bottle of water, and bought another full liter of water at the rest stop. Had just a little bit left in both bottles when I got back to the car. |
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02-06.-2004, 01:06 AM
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Re: water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
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This is called "hyponatremia", and is due to extreme electrolyte loss. |
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09-06.-2004, 08:53 AM
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Re: water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
First, You now know why the average age of an endurance cyclist is 45 years old; only youth and inexperience can make this mistake.
Second, only youth would drink gatorade or think to drink gatorade on such a ride. Third, the "he/she" may be suffering from an identify crisis and intentional tried to end "his / her" life.
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17-06.-2004, 11:43 AM
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Re: Re: water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
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So, what DO YOU recommend? |
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18-06.-2004, 01:36 AM
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Recommended Hydration Formula
Speedyg
wrote SPAM Last edited by ricstern : 18-06.-2004 at 04:38 AM. |
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06-09.-2004, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: water only + add electrolytes (don't be calorie STUPID)
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well i use a carb drink with dioralite, The receipe originally came from ironmanOz It is similar to (what's commercially known as) Gu, and is far cheaper. It has been named (rather flippantly) Gu+. -------------------------- GU+ recipe You need - Polyjoule or Polycose powder (aka Maltodextrin) - Gastrolyte sachets - Red cordial (choose your own flavour) - water - mixing bowl - fork/whisk to mix it - squeeze tube (or similar) for the gel Mix about 1.5 cups of polycose/polyjoule, 1 sachet of gastrolyte, and lastly add a generous amount of red cordial (enough to turn the powder into a gel, maybe 1/2 to 1 cup). Mix the ingredients for a minute of so. Depending on the consistency of the gel required, add small amount of water (no more than 1/2 cup) to get a 'runnier' gel. Gu+ will probably be cloudy when freshly whisked. Importantly, let the gel settle overnight in the fridge in the bowl (with glad wrap over the top) to allow the polycose/polyjoule to dissolve fully. It will turn from a cloudy liquid to a more transparent red consistency. Decant into squeezy tube before use. -------------------------- This makes about 6 shots, usually enough for 4 hours of bike or run. Make sure to have plenty of water (not gatorade) with each shot so that you can absorb it. Different people use differnt kinds of re-usable squeezy tubes. The ones I like are the Ultimate brand from Paddy Pallin, comes with a holster that attaches to my waterbelt. It has a top similar to a water bottle. I've also used a small kids juice bottle, and a plastic nalgene bottle with a screwtop lid. |
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