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HRM. Polar S510 v S710

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Old 26-01.-2002, 07:26 PM   #16
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52 is about a 10% improvment, gotta be happy with that gain in only a few weeks
 
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Old 01-02.-2002, 04:39 PM   #17
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I've got a question for those with the S510 and S710. What method do you use to download the information from the watch to the computer, IR or crandle? Does anyone have a Mac and download the data? The reason I ask is that I just bought a S710. I want to download the information to my computer, I have a G4 Mac running OS 9 and OS X . I also have Virtual PC 5 with the Polar software running on it and it works great . I sent an email to Polar asking about a USB version of their cradle. They said it will be out in a couple of months. They also said it will not work with VPC as they have tested it and could not get it to work :'(, but they didn't say what version of VPC they used or what OS. I then went to the VPC web site and they said they VPC will work with Windows USB devices as long as I have Windows 98 or higher(I have 2000) and the drivers. Does the cradle come with a driver? If I can't get it to work I may connect it at work and copy the graphs to an email then paste it in my training log at home, I made my own with Filemaker. Any thoughts?
 
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Old 01-02.-2002, 06:54 PM   #18
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Hi LLCadyJ, welcome to the forums!

OK, lets answer your Q's from top to bottom.
The S510 comes with SonicLink. The download from HRM to PC is done via microphone. The upload from PC to HRM is done via loudspeakers (I use headsets).
The S710 downloads from HRM to PC via IR. If I remember correctly from a previous post, the S710 cannot upload from PC to HRM? I'm shocked if this is true.
I have no clue regarding functionality between the Apple Mac and your S710. I use Win98 and Win2k, so no help there I'm afraid.
Win98 and higher should auto-detect the IR device imo, but I'm not sure if Windows will have a default driver available. Maybe Win2k will? The IR device will probably be supplied with a driver. Old Timer and Admin might be able to shed some light here, as they both have S710's?
You can edit the data files with a normal text editor such as Windows Notepad, so you'll be able to 'upload' the HRM info into your training log.
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Old 01-02.-2002, 07:42 PM   #19
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I thought I would post the reply that Polar sent me about a USB cradle S710 on a Mac

Dear Mr. C,

The USB IR Interface will become available in the next few months.  We do not
have an estimated availability date as yet.  Your email address will be kept on
file so that we may contact you when it is released.

However we are not sure that the USB IR Interface will work with the Mac.  It is
possible to run Windows programs like Polar Precision Performance SW 3.0 in Mac
computers through Windows emulating software such as Virtual PC. In our testing
the software itself works fine.

However, the problem is with hardware i.e. Windows emulating software does not
support external devices well enough to make them work. Although Virtual PC or
other Windows emulating software can run Windows programs there are a lot of
problems in handling external devices like Polar IR Interface which makes it
impossible to transfer exercises from HR monitor to PPP SW 3.0. In our tests we
have not managed to get our interface nor other external interfaces working
through Windows emulators. Only normal functionality for mouse, keyboard and
printer is available.

With iMac there is also a specific problem in terms of a missing serial port. We
have only an IR interface for the serial port available. Although there are USB
to serial adapters in the market we have not managed to make them to work
probably due to bad support for external devices with Windows emulator software.

Computer's internal interface in Mac computers uses IrDA protocol in
communication. Polar S610/S710/S810 monitor have its own protocol that is not
compatible with IrDA i.e. Mac computer's internal infrared port can not be used
with Polar S610/S710/S810 HR monitors. Although emulating software emulates
Win95 it is not possible to switch IrDA to so called direct IR in Macs that is
needed in using computer's internal infrared with Win95.

In summary, it is possible to run Polar Precision Performance SW 3.0 in Mac
computers through Windows emulating software, but because of the bad support for
external devices with emulating software, it is not possible to transfer
exercises through infrared communication.

If you need further assistance please feel free to contact customer service at
800-227-1314.

Thank you for choosing Polar.

Customer Service
POLAR ELECTRO INC.








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Subject:  IR Interface for USB



Greetings Polar,
I just purchased a S710 and would like to download the files to my computer.
I only have USB ports, will Polar be making a USB version of the IR
interface.
I am using a Mac with Virtual PC to run Polar Precision and I believe an
interface unit is the only way to download the data.

Thank You
Joe
 
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Old 01-02.-2002, 07:56 PM   #20
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It comes down to supply v demand
 
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Old 02-02.-2002, 05:36 PM   #21
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The S710 does not have SonicLink to upload your data from watch/monitor to PC by loud speakers. You can upload and download by IR. You can download data from PC to watch/monitor by loud speakers but not vice versa. The IR USB connection may be useful for you when available?
 
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Old 03-02.-2002, 03:02 PM   #22
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Thanx Vo2, I went our and bought the S510 with the cadence sensor.  Must say that the extra info on the S510 does help a lot.  I did my first race with it today and was suprised when I downloaded the excercise file to see my "time spent in zones" layout.

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