Does anyone own an Ergomo?

ric_stern/RST

yes, that's another reasion why i 'queried' advantage... certainly the PT is the most portable of the four available units

ric

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Squint

You people may already know this but the Ergomo only measures the power of the left leg and then multiplies it by two. Some people have leg strength differences. My right leg is noticeably bigger than my left though I've never had the difference measured, it does make me wonder.

larrynipon

Peter, thank you for your "opinion" and "feedback based on personal experience." It is the choice of the visitors to this thread to accept, reject, believe, disbelieve, etc. Ric, it would be ashame for your somewhat extreme reaction to be a catalyst towards creating reluctance to post opinions for fear of being aggressively criticized. I for one see nothing bold or misleading in Peter's statements, and encourage him, and others, to continue feeding information that is correct and accurate to the best of their knowledge and inspection. It has proven tremendously helpful to me, as I'm sure it has, many others.

ric_stern/RST

Larry (and Peter),

I stand by what i previously said. I have no problem with people making various claims, however, in the case of someone who is obviously in the 'business', i.e. Peter is a sport or exercise scientist (from memory) or similar, and has some sort of commercial bike business (coaching or similar) and has links to Ergomo on his website, then people who look at his (Peter's) posts may easily feel that he is making a 'solid' (i.e. it is more than opinion) judgement on the Ergomo's validity and accuracy. I *question* Peter's judgement on his statement (his original post on this subject was made after 2 rides, and without having used the other two power meters). Had i not challenged his opinion others may have thought he was comparing the Ergomo to the PT and SRM as well (which he clearly wasn't). On the other hand, i have way more than two rides on the Ergomo and wouldn't (as a professional in the business) make such assertions.

Again, I'll add that i'm not knocking *or* advocating the Ergomo in this thread, i'm merely commentating on Peters 'rushed' response (as someone in the business).

Ric

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peterwright

I suggest that you take on board Larry's comment with regards your approach to the posting of opinions other than your own. I for one certainly find it to be over the top and can assure you it does not encourage me to post my thoughts or opinions freely.

With regards my own posting on this thread (or any other) I do not make claim to be an expert in the field (unlike you) nor do I mention my business in my posts. My background is therefore of no bearing. 99.9 % of people reading my post would simply take it as it is intended i.e a simple opinion from an interested party.

With regards my "rushed" response. I had done a fair amount of research on Ergomo and other power devices before ordering the Ergomo. Whether I had 2 rides or 200 rides would not help me ascertain the accuracy of the machine and my comments are unlikely to change - they were simply my initial opinions.

That's not really the point here in my opinion, the issue that bothers me (and obviously Larry too) is your approach to others on the forum that have less knowledge than yourself.

Please do not write another post defending your position - it is very clear to all. I just hope you are able to take on board the comment re your approach. It is otherwise a great forum with much interesting information (a lot of it from yourself)

Peter

ric_stern/RST

you're free to post whatever opinion or comments you like (within the rules of the forum)



your business is mentioned in your post by default, as you have a link to your site. presumably, as you had to include this information when you joined the forum, you had the option of leaving it out. you didn't and thus, the prime objective of having the link is for people to click it. similarly, i have a link to my site so that people can visit it etc. had i wished to remain to anonymous i wouldn't have included it.



the only real research on the Ergomo is directly supported/supplied by the manufacturer and/or US importer, there's no independent research available. that's not to say that this data is incorrect or misleading, just where it's from, (RCs write up is from data supplied by the importer). I'm not suggesting that the data is manipulated (etc) just merely referencing where it's from.




i have no issues with anyone, whether they have less or more knowledge than me.

my point is simply that you are in a cycle/coaching/science business which lends kudos/weight to your point of view.

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peterwright

FYI I have now removed all reference to my business from the forum.

bear72

YOU GUYS ARE MAKING MY HEAD HURT. IF YOU ROAD AS MUCH AS YOU TYPE YOU'D BOTH BE RIDING THE TOUR THIS YEAR. RIC. ON A SCALE OF 1-10 WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A POWER METER TO TRAINING FOR BICYCLE RACING?