2008 Tour de France : Stage 4 Cholet 29 km Individual time trial Tuesday, July 8

Ashley.S.Olsen

87 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) Liquigas 3.10


Manuel Quinziato didn't have a good day.

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TheDarkLord

From the live commentary on CN, "We're still baffled by Schumacher's performance, and eager to find out what he and Cancellara will have to say after the stage is over".

Which other riders jump at you as "bullshit performance" thumper?

doctorSpoc

do you have any idea what the hell you are talking about? Shumi is and has always been a very good TTer.. he places top 5 to top 10 in just about every TT he rides in... what a dumb ass!!

this is like when Honchar won the TT in the giro and all these idiots started saying hey.. where did that guy come from... and how come he can TT now... even though he had a Gold, Silver and Bronze at the world TT champs and had placed 3rd (8 seconds) behind Armstrong in a TdF long TT... yes i know he's a dope cheat.. but so what, so is everyone else, so who the hell cares

please get a clue! Schumacher has always been a good TTer.. would anyone have predicted that anyone would have finished in front of Cancellara much less 4 guys

and if you don't think that the vast majority of these guys still aren't on something... you are doubly and idiot.. Kim Kirchen's time doesn't seem a little odd to you? Devolder suddenly being able to climb the way he started to last year doesn't seem odd to you?

please people.. get a clue! the vast majority of them are still on the juice (yes even Cadel Evans too).. basically if you don't want to watch juiced up riders then don't watch the tour because that's what the tour is! please stop all the bullshit dope talk and enjoy the damn race!

thunder

fuck you mate.

I know Schumi has been winning tts and prologues since 2004/5 with Skil-Shimano. This is a bit of a step up, and he obliterated the field.

There is one common theme thru his tting achievements.

2005 Skil-Shimano: flu medication
2007 Worlds: high hematocrit
2007/8 off-season: cocaine positive.

So fuck you spoc.

doctorSpoc

you completely missed my main point... and my point is... WHO THE FUCK CARES!! they are all on it... get a clue! if you don't like watching doped riders, then don't watch the damn tour, because that's what it is. and don't come here telling us your bullshit... people know what the tour is and enjoy it just the same.

- and cocaine... yeah that sure makes you ride fast eh
- we all know about Valverde (aka Piti) look at his TT time.. dope helped him a lot.. not!
- the weirdest result in that TT is not Schmacher it's Kirchen... where did that come from?

i just hate the hypocrisy... they all train, they all dope, let the best rider win.

zlatan

very good ride from lövkvist today

watch out from him in the mountain!!!

jonjungel

Yeah, I was surprised by him and Nibali. Very good rides to both of them, but I still think they will be destroyed by Andy in the mountains.

Kreuziger was a bit disappointing today, I think.

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Crankyfeet

This was a shorter more technical TT like the Dauphine where he performed really well recently. He has looked strong this race and in the build up. If anything... last year's TdF ITT's were a bit of an anomoly... though it has never been his strength I don't think. But you're right... a lot of people thought he would do better...including this dumbarse.

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thunder

how were my timesplits Cranky?

Crankyfeet

Let's see... (actual time-splits in brackets)

Evans
Menchov +20 seconds [+7 secs]
Popo +30 seconds [+176 secs.... obviously saving himself for Cadel in the humpy stages]
Valverde +80 seconds [+67 secs]
Sastre +85 seconds [ +76 secs]
F Schleck +100 seconds [ +107 secs]
A Schleck +130 seconds [+62 secs]

Crikey... apart from Popo who was coasting... and Andy Schleck.... you were within 13 secs on the other four relative to Cadel. Impressive. That's enough evidence for me that I am in the stupidest betting game that a dumbarse patsy sucker has ever backed himself into... ......

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Anticyclone

Zubeldia was never going to do a good time trial but he will be very disappointed by today finishing over 3 minutes behind Schumacher.

C'dale Girl

Ah, Cranky, but it's early yet, remember? Isn't that what you told me when I tried to warn you?

Crankyfeet

That was two stages ago. A lot has happened since then...


Hey thumper - clear out your PM box. I bet your room's a mess too, so clean that up while your there...

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zlatan

yeah i too think that andy will win the white shirt

but lövkvist has told the swedish media before the tour that he only espect to do well in the mouatins

so with this reulst i think will give andy a match the hole way to paris for the win