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09-07.-2008, 02:08 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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13-07.-2008, 12:19 AM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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You said in message 98 - cretin Quote:
I never mentioned anything about where the French riders would finish up on GC (once again try re-reading message 90, gobshite) What I did say (in message 90) was that the French riders rode well in the opening stages of the TDF.
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14-07.-2008, 02:03 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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 Does this mean the peloton is still dirty (except the frogs of course)? Or does it prove that the peloton is now clean and the french really are pussies? |
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14-07.-2008, 02:15 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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Their recovery sucks but on a good day they can perform well relative to the other riders. What does that say?
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14-07.-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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What gets me is the hypocrisy of many posters who insisted the french sucked for the last 10 years because everyone doped except the french. Well now those same people are claiming the peloton is 'clean' with the advent of better testing and enlightened teams like Slipstream. Guess what, the french still suck. So take your pick; is it because everyone still dopes except them, or that the peloton is just as dirty as ever? |
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14-07.-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
The first week is set up for the sprinters and also-ran opportunists who want to focus their no-hope race effort into the first few stages in the hope that they can lead the KOM race based on being in the break that passes first over the anthills in those first flat stages. It don't mean much as far as gauging who the serious contenders are. The serious guys are conserving their strength.
just 2c from Captain Obvious
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14-07.-2008, 05:50 PM
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Re: 2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7
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 ) ):For the last 25 years, French have lived in the shadow of the "masters" Hinault and Fignon. All French want a rider to be again like those guys were. Consequence: pressure on any youngster that looks timidly good. This also why a guy like Virenque, who was just a fair/good/excellent climber, every year tried to go for TDF victory, although all he was good at was gaining the polka dot jersey (after 98', he gave up trying to win the GC). Then, in France, from the 90's onwards, French national teams started to be good at soccer, handball and Basketball. Cycling in France was not really number 1 sports anymore. Today, no spectator is actually expecting a Frenchman to do well in TDF GC. All they want is a stage victory with "panache" as they say. And that's what gusy like Virenque, Jalabert, Moncoutié, Moreau gave them for the past years. The comments after these stage victories are so good, that no one really is looking for anything else. Then come the sponsors: don't forget, Tour de France is a French race in France, watched by millions worldwide, but also in France. For a Bouygues Telecom, Cofidis, Francaise des Jeux simply to be seen for 2 hours on TV (even without stage victory) is already fantastic. There will be plenty of pictures/comments/articles in the French papers, what else do you need. It's about brand recognition in this case. Bernard Hinault said it right: These French riders are simply "moaners". I know I am harsh on them, but my biggest wish would be for one of these young guys to stand up, win a stage, then come up to me and say: "Fuck it, you old idiot, have you seen what I just did?" According to him, a lot has to do with lack of confidence. So, all it takes for France, is to have 1 excellent rider again, the others will quickly follow. |
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15-07.-2008, 02:52 AM
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