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2008 Tour de France : Stage 3 Saint-Malo - Nantes 195 km Monday, July 7

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Old 07-07.-2008, 04:04 PM   #16
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No it isn't. It's 2m over 500m. That's 0.4%. I think that brings Evans and Valverde into calculations.

Thanks! Looks like this may not be a sprinters stage again. Whats with the tour this year!

Kirchen is gunning for a stage win. He's in good form. It could be him tonight then!

Either way, a team Columbia rider wins today. Kirchen or Cavendish!

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Cavendish
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yeah, I knew it was wrong.

You should have shuttup and bluffed, then you could have got 4 picks for the price of 3 you dumb bastard
Yeah right... like you would let me have Freire if he did well...

Unless you're a dumb bastard....
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Old 07-07.-2008, 04:09 PM   #18
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Thanks! Looks like this may not be a sprinters stage again. Whats with the tour this year!

Kirchen is gunning for a stage win. He's in good form. It could be him tonight then!

Either way, a team Columbia rider wins today. Kirchen or Cavendish!

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Cavendish
Freire
Kirchen
At least you're not biased towards Team Columbia Grater...

You could have had Ciolek instead of Freire...
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Old 07-07.-2008, 04:12 PM   #19
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At least you're not biased towards Team Columbia Grater...

You could have had Ciolek instead of Freire...

Haha! Well, 2 of us finished in the top 3 yesterday and Cav rejoined the main group so if the hill wasn't that bad, I reckon it would have been Cav, Kirchen and Ciolek as the top 3.

It's tempting actually to do it. Stuff it. I change it to.

Cavendish
Kirchen
Ciolek

Like I say, a Columbia rider wins it today. Either Cavendish in the sprint with Ciolek close behind or Kirchen attacking if it gets too tough for the sprinters. Kirchen will be riding Valverde's wheel right up to the finish and if he sees the sprinters struggling, he attacks!
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Haha! Well, 2 of us finished in the top 3 yesterday and Cav rejoined the main group so if the hill wasn't that bad, I reckon it would have been Cav, Kirchen and Ciolek as the top 3.

It's tempting actually to do it. Stuff it. I change it to.

Cavendish
Kirchen
Ciolek

Like I say, a Columbia rider wins it today. Either Cavendish in the sprint with Ciolek close behind or Kirchen attacking if it gets too tough for the sprinters. Kirchen will be riding Valverde's wheel right up to the finish and if he sees the sprinters struggling, he attacks!
They're going to be pushing 70 km/hr at the end of this one. You sure Kirchen's going to be able to keep up? She's as flat as a billiard table.
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Well then I will go for Bennati. Not enough of a hill for Ballan or Cunego...
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Pan flat stage today - but again the parcours can be deceptive as the route is rolling and is therefore not as easy as it may look.

Have to go with the sprinters : McEwen, Cav, Hushovd likely winners
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They're going to be pushing 70 km/hr at the end of this one. You sure Kirchen's going to be able to keep up? She's as flat as a billiard table.

cranky he has top 10'ed in bunch kicks at the Tour.

An uphill pseudo sprint, he finished second to Hushovd s18 2004.
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cranky he has top 10'ed in bunch kicks at the Tour.

An uphill pseudo sprint, he finished second to Hushovd s18 2004.
He finished second to Hushovd in an uphill pseudo sprint just yesterday as well.
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He finished second to Hushovd in an uphill pseudo sprint just yesterday as well.

smartarse.

Cranky, you know the worst Seppos

the worst seppos are the ex-pat Aussie seppos
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smartarse.

Cranky, you know the worst Seppos

the worst seppos are the ex-pat Aussie seppos
If being a smartarse qualifies you as a seppo... you must be currently wearing Stars and Stripes underwear thumper...
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If being a smartarse qualifies you as a seppo... you must be currently wearing Stars and Stripes underwear thumper...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...=results/stage8

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...=results/stage3

pure bunch kick, KK beats Hondo, Baldato and Kirsipuu
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Hey... my point wasn't that he doesn't have a mean kick on him. And I don't know as much as probably a lot of the fans here. But do you really think he's going to beat Hushovd, Cav, McEwen, and Steegmans tomorrow on a flat bunch sprint?
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Hey... my point wasn't that he doesn't have a mean kick on him. And I don't know as much as probably a lot of the fans here. But do you really think he's going to beat Hushovd, Cav, McEwen, and Steegmans tomorrow on a flat bunch sprint?

Cranky, placing in the top ten, is different to winning.

Winning you gotta hit the wind. Winning usually requires hitting the wind for more than 100 metres.

That requires power.

Every GT bunch kicks, you will find guys like Gilbert, Ballan, Flecha, Kirchen, Bagstedt, Burghardt, hit the top 10.

They will never win.

Just like Ogrady, Ogrady will never win a GT bunch sprint, but if Ogrady and Cav both receive no team help, Ogrady will beat Cav 9 times out of 10 in a bunch kick.

So, winning is different from finishing in the top 10.
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Cranky, placing in the top ten, is different to winning.

Winning you gotta hit the wind. Winning usually requires hitting the wind for more than 100 metres.

That requires power.

Every GT bunch kicks, you will find guys like Gilbert, Ballan, Flecha, Kirchen, Bagstedt, Burghardt, hit the top 10.

They will never win.

Just like Ogrady, Ogrady will never win a GT bunch sprint, but if Ogrady and Cav both receive no team help, Ogrady will beat Cav 9 times out of 10 in a bunch kick.

So, winning is different from finishing in the top 10.
I get your point. My three picks though were guys I thought had a chance of winning. Not the prediction of the stage podium (or people who could top 10).

For instance... in my limited experience... I see McEwen as an all or nothing man. If he has good positioning he should win. If he doesn't have good positioning.... he doesn't put in the effort and finishes 10th-15th. Even though the points count for the green jersey. He seems more interested in stage wins than worrying about coming fourth or fifth.
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