Are SUVs "evil" and bikes "good"?

KingOfTheApes

BICYCLE VIDEO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOJibBn1Et4

Originally Posted by genec
"I have since fixed the link to the video... thanks DQ for pointing it
out."

Oh tanks, I've been looking for the video.

The point is that 40% of trips in America are under 2 miles, PERFECT
FOR RIDING BIKES...

So it's NOT even that we have to get rid of the evil SUVs overnight,
but we can take up biking for short distances.

And if you do one good thing, then it cancels out the bad thing, and
you are OK... Get my point?

KingOfTheApes

BICYCLE VIDEO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOJibBn1Et4

Originally Posted by genec
"I have since fixed the link to the video... thanks DQ for pointing it
out."

Oh tanks, I've been looking for the video.

The point is that 40% of trips in America are under 2 miles, PERFECT
FOR RIDING BIKES...

So it's NOT even that we have to get rid of the evil SUVs overnight,
but we can take up biking for short distances.

And if you do one good thing, then it cancels out the bad thing, and
you are OK... Get my point?

KingOfTheApes

BICYCLE VIDEO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOJibBn1Et4

Originally Posted by genec
"I have since fixed the link to the video... thanks DQ for pointing it
out."

Oh tanks, I've been looking for the video.

The point is that 40% of trips in America are under 2 miles, PERFECT
FOR RIDING BIKES...

So it's NOT even that we have to get rid of the evil SUVs overnight,
but we can take up biking for short distances.

And if you do one good thing, then it cancels out the bad thing, and
you are OK... Get my point?

KingOfTheApes

Originally Posted by genec
"BTW having spent 7 years as a "stupid monkey" (by your definition) I
find your implications quite distasteful.

Try to keep in mind that the monkeys only carry out the policies set
forth by the politicians. And as a democracy, we tend to get the
politicians we deserve."

Well, things were different before 2000. There was a sense of duty and
patriotism. This war is about oil and SUVs, period. Or you may have
signed up before 9-11, in which case you didn't know how to get out.

My statement though is not meant to be an insult, but a reminder to
those monkeys who want to join the Army.

Forget about democracy, the sheep vote for the lions, and are not
interested in what war is all about. "Just do the job quickly," they
say. Well, it turned out to be neither quick nor cheap.

The monkeys need to be reminded that they are neither lions nor
sheep...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 26, 5:11*pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What kind of drugs might one take to cause them to refer to a motor
> vehicle as a sports utility vehicle?
>
> There ain't nothin' sporting about yer Ford Exploder, while bicycles
> on the other hand do seem to be central to some sports like racing and
> X-Games. *Heck if riding a bike isn't a sport why do you gotta wear
> them goofey assed britches and that stupid helmet to do it?
>
> There ain't nothing utilitarian about a vehicle that consumes 25% of
> my gross income to operate. *The venerable wire donkey on the other
> hand eats so little and carries so much.
>
> Motor vehicles are indeed a tool of the devil, and the devil's best
> weapon is to obfuscate the true nature of things. *To attach the term
> SUV to a motor vehicle is the work of the devil, clearly.

They gave it an appealing name for marketing, but their true nature is
better represented in: Selfish Unnecessary Vehicles.

KingOfTheApes

I don't know, but I get the feeling that this is one of those famous
phrases for posterity...

"To be able to survive on a bike you must both have the patience of
Bhudda and the rifle of John Wayne."

(Try the patience first. Unless you believe to be in the Wild West,
and then "the quickest draw wins." Now guaranteed by the Supreme
Court.)

Tim McNamara

In article
<58eefafd-0bdd-40e7-bd2c-350c9dbb41b5@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
KingOfTheApes <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 25, 9:27*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <b96fbe53-7005-41ac-b78e-935e15e8e...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 25, 5:52*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > > > No, you nutcase, SUVs are not evil and bikes are not good.
> > > > *They are inanimate objects with no moral properties
> > > > whatsoever.
> >
> > > > You really need to learn something important here: *being
> > > > anti-car != being pro-bike. *Bring pro-bike != being anti-car.
> >
> > > > Being a repetitive sock puppet troll = idiot, however. *You're
> > > > giving those of us who *are* pro-bike a bad name in the
> > > > newsgroups where you cross-post this blather. *Cut it out, you
> > > > pathetic attention-seeking whiner.
> >
> > > > Does that clear things up for you?
> >
> > > No, you can't please God and the Devil at the same time. If
> > > there's no evil in SUVs, then who's evil, the driver? Well, there
> > > has to be a hope for him, some incentive, right?
> >
> > > It's better you drop the SUV, but some are just "elitist" riders.
> > >
> >
> > Evil, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. *Maybe you need
> > to look in the mirror.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> That's true. Most of the world regards SUVs and evil.

That's not even coherent. Do you have some meds you're supposed to be
taking?

Tim McNamara

In article
<a97b3031-537b-4860-922f-b9ae8023421c@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
KingOfTheApes <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You know what USA stands for?
>
> USA stands for United Selfish of America...
>
> I wonder how can anyone die for a country that stands for
> selfishness?

You really are trolling now. Oh well, I've shit-canned all your other
sock puppets, time to shit-can this one.

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 26, 5:40*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article
> <58eefafd-0bdd-40e7-bd2c-350c9dbb4...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 25, 9:27*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <b96fbe53-7005-41ac-b78e-935e15e8e...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > *KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 25, 5:52*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > > > > No, you nutcase, SUVs are not evil and bikes are not good.
> > > > > *They are inanimate objects with no moral properties
> > > > > whatsoever.
>
> > > > > You really need to learn something important here: *being
> > > > > anti-car != being pro-bike. *Bring pro-bike != being anti-car.
>
> > > > > Being a repetitive sock puppet troll = idiot, however. *You're
> > > > > giving those of us who *are* pro-bike a bad name in the
> > > > > newsgroups where you cross-post this blather. *Cut it out, you
> > > > > pathetic attention-seeking whiner.
>
> > > > > Does that clear things up for you?
>
> > > > No, you can't please God and the Devil at the same time. If
> > > > there's no evil in SUVs, then who's evil, the driver? Well, there
> > > > has to be a hope for him, some incentive, right?
>
> > > > It's better you drop the SUV, but some are just "elitist" riders.
> > > >
>
> > > Evil, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. *Maybe you need
> > > to look in the mirror.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > That's true. Most of the world regards SUVs and evil.
>
> That's not even coherent. *Do you have some meds you're supposed to be
> taking?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Most of the world regards SUVs as evil."

Is that hard to figure out?

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 26, 5:42*pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article
> <a97b3031-537b-4860-922f-b9ae80234...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *KingOfTheApes <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You know what USA stands for?
>
> > USA stands for United Selfish of America...
>
> > I wonder how can anyone die for a country that stands for
> > selfishness?
>
> You really are trolling now. *Oh well, I've shit-canned all your other
> sock puppets, time to shit-can this one.

There's a difference, you know...

"You are doing good for the environment and peace. Not like those
selfish people who drive SUVs."

http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peac...089762324119933

Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)

On 26 Jun 2008 01:30:19 GMT, jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>
>I see you are religiously attached to your superiority citing "God and
>the Devil". I'm certain that drivers of passing cars sense your
>smugness and have no friendly feelings toward your presence.

Bad cycling aura!

KingOfTheApes

Originally Posted by plumberroy
I have left this thread alone for the last 2 pages but one remark has
got me back in I'm going to try not to get my self in trouble:
DQ
If you made the statment about our soldiers being monkeys while in my
house I would physically throw you out of my house! I will stop at
that so not to get banned
I have not set up my signature on this forum yet the signature I use
is::
Every breath I have ever taken as a free man was paid for in the blood
of an American Soldier"

Well, they can't come out completely clean when they are fighting the
wrong war, and they know it. As a matter fact, the military is having
a hard time meeting its quotas.

But the whole issue of having few soldiers willing to volunteer to
fight "their" wars would be solved if "their" kids had to serve. Yep,
bring back the draft. You would see the war in Iraq be finished within
a year.

So far though it's the children of the poor who go pay the ultimate
UNSELFISH sacrifice... For WHOM and for WHAT? For the most SELFISH
bunch on earth to keep their SUVs going...

Hey, that's kind of stupid, isn't it?

KingOfTheApes

On Jun 26, 7:02*pm, "Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)"
<DwightSchr...@DunderMifflin.com> wrote:
> On 26 Jun 2008 01:30:19 GMT, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>
>
>
> >I see you are religiously attached to your superiority citing "God and
> >the Devil". *I'm certain that drivers of passing cars sense your
> >smugness and have no friendly feelings toward your presence.
>
> Bad cycling aura!

I think they feel that God being "their co-pilot" allows them to do
whatever they want.

Besides, they probably think most cyclists are tree-huggers who don't
deserve much respect.

KingOfTheApes

Well, I hope you find this funny. The Original Poster says:

Biking is not for average joes
"If people biked liked they drive , i.e assuming people see them,
they'd be hit every week. I bike as though I am invisible and this
helps me avoid one certain accident every week. I am convinced safe
cycling takes a lot of equipment ( lights, mirror, etc ) and knowledge
that average joes's simply do not have the desire to understand. That
is why no matter how expensive gas becomes, people are still better
off driving for their own safety."

Then he gets attacked...

"OP reminds me of Idiocracy.

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point.
Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest,
the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process
which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor
different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future
that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on,
things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down.
How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward
intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to
simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent
to become an endangered species."

And then I counter-attack...

And then the dumb ones elected a President that reminds us of the
stone age...

http://www.bartcop.com/mo-caveman.jpg

It was a real pitty that they threw over the board 10,000 years of
civilization.

***

They've got a very nice forum there with all kinds of subdivisions
within biking...

http://www.bikeforums.net/index.php