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Old 25-06.-2008, 01:01 PM   #31
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Champions overcome that. It's the horse racing equivalent to brakes rubbing.
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See Bro, this place ain't dead. It's just become a horse racing forum.
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Old 25-06.-2008, 02:08 PM   #32
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Old 25-06.-2008, 06:28 PM   #33
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sorry, I have been too busy to post as I have been reading this excellent new book

http://www.amazon.com/Might-Well-Wi...14352668&sr=8-1


I was in a bookshop in Wales on the weekend & I really wish I had my camera with me....... on the bookshelf was the hardcover edition of "You might as well win" right next to a book on drugs in sport........ they were perfect companion books....
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Old 25-06.-2008, 06:32 PM   #34
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sorry, I have been too busy to post as I have been reading this excellent new book

http://www.amazon.com/Might-Well-Wi...14352668&sr=8-1


oh and I love the reviews...... I guess Lance & Johan had lots of fun posting these:

I was very pleasantly surprised reading Johan Bruyneel's book "We Might As Well Win". It could have been an indulgent, sloppy mess. Instead, it is a crisp, well-written, multi-layered, fun, and insightful book that provides equal parts insights into Lance, insights into Johan, insights into races, and insights into winning. Bruyneel's personal strengths are projected through the writing, including a gentleman's restraint and a willingness to look reality squarely in the face.

An excellent cycling book, definitely gets a podium spot on my bookshelf!

I loved this book!, May 18, 2008
By Sandy D. Scott (Seminole, FL USA) - See all my reviews

This book is a must read for anyone with even a remote interest in bicycle racing. The book is an incredible insight into the managerial genius of Johan Bruyneel who has led his teams to an incredible 8 wins out of the last 9 Tours de France. I found it fascinating to read the descriptions of his strategical and tactical approach to winning.

We learn about Bruyneel's early years as a pro bicycle racer and his stage victory in the Tour de France. The book also is a fascinating insight into the relationship between Johan and Lance Armstrong.

My only disappointment with the book is that after an incredibly quick read of 205 pages, I hated to finish the book - I wish there was more!


Pleasantly Surprised, June 1, 2008
By Julie A. H. (Great Lakes, USA) - See all my reviews
I have been a cycling fan for years. I particularly love the goings on of the professional peloton. The riders, the back stories, and, especially, the tactics.
When I heard Johan Bruyneel was writing a book, I thought it would be more directed towards business professionals. A "how to get ahead" type mantra.
I was pleasantly surprised to find that that is not this book!

Johan Bruyneel writes a clean, well formed, clear picture of the professional peloton during his years as a rider, and then as DS for the US Postal and Discovery Channel Pro Cycling teams. In this book, you find that, as a rider, Johan was a looker. He kept a close eye on other riders in the peloton. He sized them up, if you will. In this book, Johan Bruyneel encapsulates what he "took in" while "checking out the scene", and candidly shares his findings with the reader.

He then explains why this is so important in the shaping of Lance Armstrong with specific race examples. The reader will understand that while, yes, luck does play a part in winning not only one Grand Tour, but 7 in a row, a well though out, meticulous game plan is the key to success.

This book takes you back to specific stages - specific climbs - and opens a window for you to see what actually was going on between Johan, Lance and the other 8 riders riding le Tour. It is like you were able to listen in on the race radio. Some pretty funny things are said on that radio!

You will find the meaning behind the thought "We Might As Well Win". You will also find that you can apply that to your own daily life - regardless of what you do.

Think Bobke, but more tactical, more precise.

I thoroughly enjoyed this book. I know Johan Bryuneel has hundreds, if not thousands more stories in his head. Should he ever decide to write them down, I will be one of many in line to get my copy.

So get your copy. Have a quick, easy read, and see if you knew what was really going on, say in the 1999 Tour de France Alpe d'Heuz stage. Was Armstrong spent? Was he giving it his all? Was he holding back? How much did he have left in his tank at the base of that climb?

Well, you will just have to read the book and find out.
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Old 25-06.-2008, 06:33 PM   #35
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I was in a bookshop in Wales on the weekend & I really wish I had my camera with me....... on the bookshelf was the hardcover edition of "You might as well win" right next to a book on drugs in sport........ they were perfect companion books....
"Might As Well Go Work In A Gulag - Anything To Get Away From My Monstrosity Of A Wife."
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Ha ! LOL ! No wonder he doing the commentary this year.... he looks forward to July every year for 3 weeks away from Mrs.ET.... that why he was so pissed with ASO...
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Ha ! LOL ! No wonder he doing the commentary this year.... he looks forward to July every year for 3 weeks away from Mrs.ET.... that why he was so pissed with ASO...
It's a book aimed at idiots. If anyone thinks they are going to get the "back story" to the 7 Tour wins then they know fark all about cycling. Him writing this book without mentioning the doping Lance used is like Michael Schumacher's team manager writing about the 7 world titles but denying that there was ever any petrol in the Ferrari engine.
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Old 25-06.-2008, 07:11 PM   #38
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It's a book aimed at idiots. If anyone thinks they are going to get the "back story" to the 7 Tour wins then they know fark all about cycling. Him writing this book without mentioning the doping Lance used is like Michael Schumacher's team manager writing about the 7 world titles but denying that there was ever any petrol in the Ferrari engine.


or more to the point that Shuey never ran anyone off the road in a bid to win a world title !
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Old 25-06.-2008, 08:31 PM   #39
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It's a book aimed at idiots. If anyone thinks they are going to get the "back story" to the 7 Tour wins then they know fark all about cycling. Him writing this book without mentioning the doping Lance used is like Michael Schumacher's team manager writing about the 7 world titles but denying that there was ever any petrol in the Ferrari engine.


I agree.

I think that its a book targetted toward general sports market, and not targetted to cycling fans (except those blind faith believer type "cycling fans").

Quickly checked accredited cycling journalists - and I haven't seen any reviews posted by them about the Bruyneels book.
Possibly because those journos know the real story with Bruyneel aka Mini Saiz.
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morelike hypocrisy.
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Yeats won his third successive Gold Cup at Ascot last week!
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Old 26-06.-2008, 04:44 AM   #42
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been really busy, took a few days off but have not abandoned the board. just life is happening (which is a good thing)
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Old 26-06.-2008, 05:08 AM   #43
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been really busy, took a few days off but have not abandoned the board. just life is happening (which is a good thing)

Yeah, your presence has really been missed by a couple of us. That is a good thing, as long as the "life happening" pertains to good things happening.
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been really busy, took a few days off but have not abandoned the board. just life is happening (which is a good thing)
Oh.. so you've got another life now, huh?... Does your other life share a wine at 11:00pm?... Does your other life allow you to vent on JB and musette?... Can you switch your other life off and put it in hiberbate mode? Is it an older version of us? Is it perverted like us? Would it grope you in a theater? Does it speak eloquently? Let you say "Oh Baby". I'm sure it will make a really excellent time-waster...
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It's a book aimed at idiots. If anyone thinks they are going to get the "back story" to the 7 Tour wins then they know fark all about cycling. Him writing this book without mentioning the doping Lance used is like Michael Schumacher's team manager writing about the 7 world titles but denying that there was ever any petrol in the Ferrari engine.


I liked this question to Bruyneel about his new book:

VN: One name that is not mentioned in the book is Michele Ferrari, why did you avoid this topic in the book?

JB: I wanted it to be a positive book. There are a lot of things that have been said that are negative. I wanted the book to be focused on the philosophy of winning. That wasn’t necessary to mention, and it is controversial anyway. That’s a battle I gave up on a long time ago. I don’t want to have to keep explaining and keep defending ourselves. I’ve passed that stage a long time ago.
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